Malicious contact

[Tru_in_Blu]

Originally Posted by RKBUmp

ASA does not have an out call for flagrant/excessive or malicious contact.

Your words. You didn't specify by situation.

ASA does have an out call for flagrant contact.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu

Your words. You didn't specify by situation.

ASA does have an out call for flagrant contact.

Which rule do you mean?

[Tru_in_Blu]

Originally Posted by cecilone

which rule do you mean?

rs 13

[teebob21]

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu

rs 13

This particular play has been the source of most of my dead-ball outs and a bunch of missed youth ejections over my umpiring career. Most of that has been ASA ball. Today I learned there is no interference rule against a runner "interfering" with a fielder who does not have the ball. I have probably called this out 20 times with no one ever protesting (except when I ejected a 12 y.o. kid).

Instead of the catcher, let's imagine this play at 3B. A runner from 2B intends to score on a base hit to LF. When rounding 3B, the runner intentionally runs over and through F5 who is waiting for the cutoff throw. There is no ASA rule support for an out or a dead ball.

If the fielder has the ball when the crash is initiated by the runner, we have the RS #13 and 8-7-Q rule support. Otherwise, a strict interpretation of the rules would lead me to believe we play on, and eject at the conclusion of play.

[Tru_in_Blu]

Originally Posted by teebob21

Instead of the catcher, let's imagine this play at 3B. A runner from 2B intends to score on a base hit to LF. When rounding 3B, the runner intentionally runs over and through F5 who is waiting for the cutoff throw. There is no ASA rule support for an out or a dead ball.

If the fielder has the ball when the crash is initiated by the runner, we have the RS #13 and 8-7-Q rule support. Otherwise, a strict interpretation of the rules would lead me to believe we play on, and eject at the conclusion of play.

In NFHS, if the initiator of the malicious contact is the offensive player, the play is dead immediately and the offender is declared out (if not already having been put out).

While ASA doesn't seem to have an out unless the defender has the ball and awaiting to tag the runner, is there anything that says the play would be dead immediately as in NFHS?