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Forum: Baseball Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:45pm
Replies: 3
Views: 1,082
Posted By ccrroo
Sorry -- didn't press "publish" at YourTube. ...

Sorry -- didn't press "publish" at YourTube. Should be good now.
Forum: Baseball Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:31pm
Replies: 3
Views: 1,082
Posted By ccrroo
Runner Interference on Force Play

Looking for thoughts on this play.
Batter-Runner called out for R1 interference on force play. Fed rules.
Umpire was overheard telling the coach that the runner must slide.
(a quick internet...
Forum: Basketball Sat Feb 07, 2015, 04:55pm
Replies: 16
Views: 1,712
Posted By ccrroo
Lane Violation (Video)

Both refs explained that perimeter players couldn't cross the top of the three point line until the ball hit the rim. After the game, another ref sitting in the stands said the perimeter players...
Forum: Basketball Thu Feb 05, 2015, 10:17pm
Replies: 8
Views: 865
Posted By ccrroo
Anytime I see that on TV, I remember a coach...

Anytime I see that on TV, I remember a coach telling me it was a double dribble. But that was like 35 years ago. Is anyone old enough to remember if it was ever a violation. Just curious. I've...
Forum: Basketball Tue Feb 03, 2015, 10:35pm
Replies: 51
Views: 4,083
Posted By ccrroo
So I've learned a lot and adjusted the coaching...

So I've learned a lot and adjusted the coaching points. So 2 more examples from a recent game.
I think example 1 is illegal. And example 2 is legal. I've left out the ref making any calls...
Forum: Basketball Sun Feb 01, 2015, 10:51am
Replies: 97
Views: 5,667
Posted By ccrroo
Apologies for the sarcasm. It was to be directed...

Apologies for the sarcasm. It was to be directed at the rules themselves. Not the guys that enforce them (or take their time to try to explain them).
Thanks again. I've learned a lot and will...
Forum: Basketball Sun Feb 01, 2015, 10:42am
Replies: 41
Views: 3,392
Posted By ccrroo
My bad. I meant W35. I'm assuming in this...

My bad. I meant W35.

I'm assuming in this case the official thought the defense was giving ground. So the defense doesn't have to do anything but play it exactly as he did.
Then the ref decides...
Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 11:47pm
Replies: 51
Views: 4,083
Posted By ccrroo
Unhappy In this clip, I think he ends his dribble with...

In this clip, I think he ends his dribble with his right foot on the ground. Before reading this, I didn't know to look for that (I know, pretty bad coaching). So therefore, a travel.

I'm not...
Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 11:27pm
Replies: 41
Views: 3,392
Posted By ccrroo
Fan here. Just curious. In play 1 (in the...

Fan here. Just curious.

In play 1 (in the post) is there an opportunity for W32 to take a charge. It looks like W32 is in great position and B15 is just moving him out of the way.

Does he not...
Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 10:39pm
Replies: 97
Views: 5,667
Posted By ccrroo
Dang it. I came back. I thought the defender...

Dang it. I came back.
I thought the defender tried to place his body in the path.
But if attacking the ball allows for this contact (including tripping in this case). That's what we should be...
Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 09:00pm
Replies: 97
Views: 5,667
Posted By ccrroo
Guys -- I'm checking out now. I sincerely...

Guys -- I'm checking out now. I sincerely appreciate the comments and patience. I will save this as a reminder to never become a basketball official and never attempt coaching above the middle...
Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 08:48pm
Replies: 97
Views: 5,667
Posted By ccrroo
Thanks. Not even my best work - lol I use a...

Thanks. Not even my best work - lol
I use a gopro mounted on the wall. Then use VLC to zoom and slow it down. But then the quality goes down quickly when I record the clip on my cell phone camera...
Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 08:42pm
Replies: 97
Views: 5,667
Posted By ccrroo
Defender 2 in the bottom video isn't required to...

Defender 2 in the bottom video isn't required to be in legal guarding position?
It may not show on the video, but his elbow is hit by the defender and his leg is kicked out. And the ball barely...
Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 07:51pm
Replies: 97
Views: 5,667
Posted By ccrroo
Exactly. Refs are envisioning what might have...

Exactly. Refs are envisioning what might have happened if a player is held/pushed away from the ball. He might have cut to the low block for a layup or he might have just stayed put. Or his...
Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 07:41pm
Replies: 97
Views: 5,667
Posted By ccrroo
If your still game, here are 2 more that confused...

If your still game, here are 2 more that confused me. Especially, in light of some of the stuff I've learned (contact not affecting the outcome type stuff -- I know poorly worded).

(I'm trying to...
Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 07:29pm
Replies: 97
Views: 5,667
Posted By ccrroo
So I'll give it another shot of why I want vid 2...

So I'll give it another shot of why I want vid 2 called. (and yes, I missed the obvious ones about foul trouble and foul shots - thanks guys)

I'm learning it's wrong, but that defensive player in...
Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 07:21pm
Replies: 97
Views: 5,667
Posted By ccrroo
Thanks Adam, that does help.

Thanks Adam, that does help.
Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 07:10pm
Replies: 97
Views: 5,667
Posted By ccrroo
This one made me pause. I'm certainly going to...

This one made me pause. I'm certainly going to have to give this some thought. I'm pretty sure I didn't know that refs also had to rate the strength of the player. That certainly complicates it.
Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 07:05pm
Replies: 97
Views: 5,667
Posted By ccrroo
I sincerely get that I don't understand what...

I sincerely get that I don't understand what properly officiated play involves. I'm trying to learn and if I seem sarcastic at times, I apologize. I understand that officiating is a hard job and...
Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 06:59pm
Replies: 97
Views: 5,667
Posted By ccrroo
Great comment, Adam. There was certainly...

Great comment, Adam. There was certainly contact. I was right across from it. And I haven't see any 7th graders in our league that can avoid contact with that move.
I would like it called so its...
Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 06:52pm
Replies: 97
Views: 5,667
Posted By ccrroo
What part is hyperbole? Ok, maybe "absolutely...

What part is hyperbole? Ok, maybe "absolutely amazed" is. But the defender did hit the dribblers chest. Now the offense has to change their game for the rest of the game to be on guard for this. ...
Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 06:44pm
Replies: 97
Views: 5,667
Posted By ccrroo
That's really why I started this thread. It's...

That's really why I started this thread. It's sloppy 7th grade basketball exacerbated by lots of what looks like illegal contact. If the illegal contact were reduced, we would get less sloppy...
Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 06:30pm
Replies: 97
Views: 5,667
Posted By ccrroo
I would like to think that I would blow the...

I would like to think that I would blow the whistle twice and the players would learn to stop making that move. That's probably wrong (per the rules) and naive. And no one would ever want to work...
Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 06:26pm
Replies: 97
Views: 5,667
Posted By ccrroo
Realize the camera angle is no good, but in video...

Realize the camera angle is no good, but in video 2 there was contact. I was directly across from the play. At the age and ability, I don't see how a kid makes that move without contact.
Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 06:24pm
Replies: 97
Views: 5,667
Posted By ccrroo
On #2, it's frustrating that it's a foul if the...

On #2, it's frustrating that it's a foul if the ball comes out and otherwise it's not. When the defense is constantly doing that move, it impacts how the offense attacks. They have to be much more...
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