Snap on the ready?

[Welpe]

Yes, as long as they are set for 1 second prior to the snap.

This has been discussed quite a few times before, what are you getting at?

[bigjohn]

Just making sure, I was pretty sure you had to wait one full second after the whistle. Not snap the ball on the whistle, I did a search and found nothing.

I have gotten two different answers here already so which is it??

[BIG UMP]

I'm going with Welpe, If A is set for one second prior to the ready they can snap the ball on the ready. They have met all requirements.

[claude]

Penalty on D (delay of game) if they are not ready, correct?

[bigjohn]

D (or B I think is correct) does not have to be set for any length of time.

[Robert Goodman]

What would it even mean for team B not to be ready? There is a general provision about a team's appearing to be ready following a major stoppage, but not just any RFP.

[claude]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

What would it even mean for team B not to be ready? There is a general provision about a team's appearing to be ready following a major stoppage, but not just any RFP.

Just breaking huddle

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by claude

Penalty on D (delay of game) if they are not ready, correct?

Um... no.

[Suudy]

Originally Posted by BIG UMP

I'm going with Welpe, If A is set for one second prior to the ready they can snap the ball on the ready. They have met all requirements.

And in discussions before, is putting hands on the ball by the center movement? We have the U hold off the center until the RFP. Is the action of reaching down and grabbing (and adjusting) the ball movement? If so, then the earliest one could snap is 1 second after the RFP.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Suudy

And in discussions before, is putting hands on the ball by the center movement? We have the U hold off the center until the RFP. Is the action of reaching down and grabbing (and adjusting) the ball movement? If so, then the earliest one could snap is 1 second after the RFP.

Well, think about it... when you're in hurry up, don't most R's give U just a second to get out of there before blowing it ready? I know I've said, "Wait for the whistle!!!" more than once.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Well, think about it... when you're in hurry up, don't most R's give U just a second to get out of there before blowing it ready? I know I've said, "Wait for the whistle!!!" more than once.

Yup, that's how we do it anyways. R sends the U off and gives him a couple to get into position while the U tells the snapper "Wait for the whistle."

[Suudy]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Well, think about it... when you're in hurry up, don't most R's give U just a second to get out of there before blowing it ready? I know I've said, "Wait for the whistle!!!" more than once.

That is a good point. If the center grabs the ball just as the U backs off and completes his adjustments prior to the RFP, I see your point. But if the center waits for the whistle before grabbing/adjusting the ball, then we have at least 1 second after the RFP.

I guess it depends on how "Wait for the whistle!!" is interpreted.

[CT1]

There's no requirement in FED for a one-second pause after the RFP. There is a requirement for a one-second set after a shift.

So, if A is at the line and all players have been set for at least one second, they can snap immediately after the RFP has sounded. This might happen in a hurry-up situation after a first down, for instance.

[BIG UMP]

Originally Posted by Suudy

And in discussions before, is putting hands on the ball by the center movement? We have the U hold off the center until the RFP. Is the action of reaching down and grabbing (and adjusting) the ball movement? If so, then the earliest one could snap is 1 second after the RFP.

Sure its movement but I have lots of centers make adjustments long before the RFP. I just tell them don't snap the ball before the whistle. Wait for the whistle.

[jTheUmp]

As an umpire, I probably say "wait for the whistle" at least 15 times per game, and sometimes a lot more if offenses are running no-huddle.

In 2-minute situations, I'll also let players know "clock starts on the whistle" or "clock starts on the snap" if I can, especially when we have a first down.