End of Wisconsin - Arizona State game

[hbk314]

The Pac-12 reprimands officials from Arizona State-Wisconsin game - CBSSports.com

[Adam]

Originally Posted by hbk314

The Pac-12 reprimands officials from Arizona State-Wisconsin game - CBSSports.com

But are you going to be happy with anything less than them never working again?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Adam

But are you going to be happy with anything less than them never working again?

They probably got downgraded and maybe the Umpire and possibly the Referee could have been involved.

The BIG suspended a crew for messing up a 10 second run off near the end of the first half that involved and injured player and an incomplete pass.

These guys appear to be working.

Still not outraged.

Peace

[hbk314]

Originally Posted by Adam

But are you going to be happy with anything less than them never working again?

I'm happy to see that the conference is stating what everyone already knew instead of burying its head in the sand.

I'd be interested to know what exactly the sanctions include, because the conference's statement doesn't really reflect the magnitude of the officials' errors.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by hbk314

I'm happy to see that the conference is stating what everyone already knew instead of burying its head in the sand.

I'd be interested to know what exactly the sanctions include, because the conference's statement doesn't really reflect the magnitude of the officials' errors.

Because they probably are going to officiate next week and the rest of the season unless another incident. And something tells me they will be back next year too. And in the situation where I said a BIG crew was suspended, the media never covered the specific incident in any capacity until the officials were suspended. Even then it was not even a big deal because the media has no idea what officials are scrutinized for but when it is a well known incident near the end of the game.

The statement sounds mostly for PR purposes to make people like you feel better. Nothing more and nothing less.

The incident will be used for training and to help communication, but nothing more will be done.

For the record officials in every conference are evaluated on every play and down graded all the time for stuff you never even know took place or for a coverage that seemed routine. But as a fanboy you probably did not know that fact.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by hbk314

I'm happy to see that the conference is stating what everyone already knew instead of burying its head in the sand.

I'd be interested to know what exactly the sanctions include, because the conference's statement doesn't really reflect the magnitude of the officials' errors.

It might be that they disagree with you on the magnitude.

It might be they don't think the public needs to know, because publicizing sancctions would undermine the credibility of this crew in future games.

Based on your initial post, which was really the spark of disagreement here, I didn't think you'd be happy unless they were deported to North Korea.

[hbk314]

Originally Posted by Adam

It might be that they disagree with you on the magnitude.

It might be they don't think the public needs to know, because publicizing sancctions would undermine the credibility of this crew in future games.

Based on your initial post, which was really the spark of disagreement here, I didn't think you'd be happy unless they were deported to North Korea.

Obviously I was over the top in my initial post, but the officials did decide the game through their errors and made no attempt to correct them.

What's done is done. Hopefully this inexcusable situation doesn't happen again. I'd just like to see some of you be a little more objective looking at the situation. MD Longhorn was exactly right.

And for the record, I'm normally defensive of officials, especially in baseball with all of the "analysts" commenting on umpires, but as someone who watched this situation happen live and watched the officials abandon their posts at the end of the game, the officials deserve every bit of criticism they received.

[JRutledge]

Just because people do not agree with you does not make it less objective. Once again the team created the situation by their actions. Hand the ball to the officials and no ASU player can jump on the ball or assume it was a fumble. I guarantee you teams will coach this part of the game better and not have their player set the ball down on the ground, waiting for the ball to be spotted by the officials.

Peace

[hbk314]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Just because people do not agree with you does not make it less objective. Once again the team created the situation by their actions. Hand the ball to the officials and no ASU player can jump on the ball or assume it was a fumble. I guarantee you teams will coach this part of the game better and not have their player set the ball down on the ground, waiting for the ball to be spotted by the officials.

Peace

While that would have helped, it's a total cop out to use that to attempt to defend the officials lack of officiating.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by hbk314

Obviously I was over the top in my initial post, but the officials did decide the game through their errors and made no attempt to correct them.

If you've spend more than one second on this site, you would know that one of the major pet peeves of officials (of all sports, btw) is this notion that an error on one play, even a big one, decides the game every single time it happens at the end of the game. The notion is nonsense. EVERY play could decide the game. The game is the confluence of all the plays (and mistakes, outstanding plays, bad and good calls) put together.

Speaking as if the notion carries any weight at all is going to get your POV dismissed quickly and decisively, even if (as in this case) you had a valid point otherwise.