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penalty enforcement procedure
By the rule book is a player allowed to consult with a coach as w the rhether or not to acceprt a penalty? I know it says a time out cannot be taken but I have not seen a definitive answer on this.
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In practice, officials will just automatically accept/decline the penalty in 'obvious' situations (false start, encroachment, DPI/OPI, etc). If there's a non-obvious choice to be made (ie: holding called on a 3rd and 2 where the runner was stopped short of the line to gain at the edge of field goal range), the referee will often look directly to the coach for his choice, in the interests of expediency. |
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The practice of enforcing without consulting captains in the 98% of cases that are obvious is the prescribed mechanic in Ohio. Saves a great deal of time.
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9-8-1f NOTE: Between downs, communications between players and coaches near the sideline are not an unauthorized conference.
I'd say once the referee has the captain's attention and explained the options, the time to confer with the coach is over. |
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Anyway, I find it somewhat amusing this question was even asked. Although there were a couple of eras in football's hx wherein the rules makers tried to prevent communication from non-players to players (no coaching from the sideline), it was learned that even if such is a desideratum, it is not practicably enforcible. Today the only related concern is whether the game is being delayed. Chances are that if the captain confers with a coach, the game will be less delayed than otherwise! |
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Muhhh... what? You just quoted a rule that says players and coaches can talk with each other between downs to justify not letting them talk to each other. Let me reiterate... Muhhh... what?
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Not our job. Perhaps a peripheral benefit from us doing our jobs right... but not a driving factor in doing our jobs at all.
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I'm quoting the rule because it IS possible to communicate between downs so thus coming by the sideline to get guidance would be ok. However we all know he can't call timeout to go consult. I don't know too may WH's that that once the captain is in his presence and the options are being explained, it would be too late to then go over to the sideline to ask. The WH is going to want an answer. Unless the captain can look over and read lips or hear them screaming, he's locked in.
Maybe I should have typed more the first time. |
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I know most officials in our area ask the coaches if they want to take or decline a penalty before they ever say anything to the captains.
I know this is true in the NFL, most officials just ask the coach.
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