kickoff oob enforcement

[jTheUmp]

Originally Posted by Canned Heat

FYI.....for Fed, the Kick line is not the 30 (40 YL), and in Fed...there is no 5 yard penalty on the OOB spot. The ball goes 1st and 10 from the inbound spot where it went OOB....if we're still inquiring on FED adaptation.

Yes, I'm aware of that. The original question was about NCAA, so I provided the NCAA answer.

[Canned Heat]

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

Yes, I'm aware of that. The original question was about NCAA, so I provided the NCAA answer.

Actually, it was orginally unknown...then edited to NFHS...then to NCAA. Duly noted...didn't catch the 2nd revision.

Regards.

[parepat]

Question. If R decides to take the ball at the out of bounds spot, should the decline signal be given? NFHS rules. Had an observer note on my evaluation that I should have declined it.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by parepat

Question. If R decides to take the ball at the out of bounds spot, should the decline signal be given? NFHS rules. Had an observer note on my evaluation that I should have declined it.

I don't know if that mechanic is in the book, but taking the ball where it went out of bounds would indeed amount to declining the penalty and taking the result of the play.

So I'd say, yes, signal that R declines. Probably most likely when an onside kick goes out of bounds.

[Canned Heat]

Mic'd up this last weekend when we had it and it went as follows:
"Illegal Procedure (while signaling #19)...free kick out of bounds on the kicking team. Penalty declined (signal 10). White elects to take the ball at the inbounds spot....First down (signal #8)"

I'm sure others do it differently...just how I've always done it.

[bisonlj]

Originally Posted by Canned Heat

Mic'd up this last weekend when we had it and it went as follows:
"Illegal Procedure (while signaling #19)...free kick out of bounds on the kicking team. Penalty declined (signal 10). White elects to take the ball at the inbounds spot....First down (signal #8)"

I'm sure others do it differently...just how I've always done it.

That's what I would do except there is no foul called "illegal procedure" (unless you are an PA announcer, broadcaster, or coach). The signal is #19 but you should not have announced illegal procedural.

If you are not mic'd though I think you still give the decline signal but nobody is probably watching the R at this point.

[Canned Heat]

Originally Posted by bisonlj

That's what I would do except there is no foul called "illegal procedure" (unless you are an PA announcer, broadcaster, or coach). The signal is #19 but you should not have announced illegal procedural.

If you are not mic'd though I think you still give the decline signal but nobody is probably watching the R at this point.

Correct...that's why I never make it to the state finals.