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Old Mon Oct 18, 2010, 10:09am
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This game was on Fieldturf...line are pretty good there! He was short by almost a yard.
On Field Turf? Well, then we'd rarely have to measure in a lot of cases.

We'd start each series on a yardline when possible and would use the lines on the field. Even if we're 6 inches short, if I know we have to get to a yardline, I'm not measuring unless we're in a sidezone and I bring the chains out specifically to move the football to the hashmark.
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On Field Turf? Well, then we'd rarely have to measure in a lot of cases.

We'd start each series on a yardline when possible and would use the lines on the field. Even if we're 6 inches short, if I know we have to get to a yardline, I'm not measuring unless we're in a sidezone and I bring the chains out specifically to move the football to the hashmark.
Series started with a touchback...ball on the 20 yard line.
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Old Mon Oct 18, 2010, 11:26am
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Series started with a touchback...ball on the 20 yard line.
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Oh, good gravy.
You know what I meant...
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Old Mon Oct 18, 2010, 03:49pm
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You know what I meant...
I'm not sure. I was referring to the practice of measuring when it's clearly short on the field based on the lines we're given.

(I know I'm repeating myself here....)

I trust the lines. Always. If we start on the 20 after a touchback and the ball is one inch short of the 30, it's short. I *will not measure*. I *will not* move the ball in that situation using the chains, either, because if I bring the chains out that one inch short could be a first down by the chains and that would be a problem.

Using the lines, IMO, is the only way everyone has a consistent frame of reference. The offense knows it needs the 30 and the defense knows it needs to hold the 30.

And since we start every new series (after a kickoff or punt) on a major yard line (actually, we don't, but we sure try to) we use the lines a lot. I'm not going to bring the chains out when we're a foot short so the chains prove the lines are off and we actually have a first down. The defense's coach would have a cardiac and I wouldn't blame him.

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"good gravy" comments + CANNED heat posts + game in Campbellsport =



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Old Mon Oct 18, 2010, 09:29pm
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"good gravy" comments + CANNED heat posts + game in Campbellsport =



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1) I assumed Rich was picking on my choice of words regarding the touchback...and yes, I work plenty of games on turf. I also referenced that the video I saw showed they were well short of the 30. I know guys handle the chains different and I also can show you yard lines that are f-ing terrible...by like a foot. (Algoma, WI two Fridays ago...enter joke CC)

2) Good to see some guys still have a sense of humor.

3) Can't imagine how pissy fits get going on this site between guys. I referenced C-sport for my fellow WI-nites....Do us a favor, call one of the Kennedys and look for the real shooter of JFK if you want a pissin' match or better yet...go debate with some of your locals how Manhattan clam chowder is in NO WAY better than your New England version.....Jesus. Can you redeem those labels for some class....? Thought so.
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