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Old Mon Oct 18, 2010, 08:54am
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In my opinion, this is the definition of being not-too-bright.

We measure the chains every week (using a few 10-yard line differences), but the lines may not be exactly in the right place. If we start at the 20 after a touchback (or on any major yardline) and we come up any distance short of the line on the field, IT'S SHORT. No, coach, we won't measure -- you need to get to the 30 yard line and you're an inch short of that. End of story.

I'd love to see a video of this.
This game was on Fieldturf...line are pretty good there! He was short by almost a yard.
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Old Mon Oct 18, 2010, 10:09am
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This game was on Fieldturf...line are pretty good there! He was short by almost a yard.
On Field Turf? Well, then we'd rarely have to measure in a lot of cases.

We'd start each series on a yardline when possible and would use the lines on the field. Even if we're 6 inches short, if I know we have to get to a yardline, I'm not measuring unless we're in a sidezone and I bring the chains out specifically to move the football to the hashmark.
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On Field Turf? Well, then we'd rarely have to measure in a lot of cases.

We'd start each series on a yardline when possible and would use the lines on the field. Even if we're 6 inches short, if I know we have to get to a yardline, I'm not measuring unless we're in a sidezone and I bring the chains out specifically to move the football to the hashmark.
Series started with a touchback...ball on the 20 yard line.
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Old Mon Oct 18, 2010, 11:26am
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Series started with a touchback...ball on the 20 yard line.
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Oh, good gravy.
You know what I meant...
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Old Mon Oct 18, 2010, 03:49pm
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You know what I meant...
I'm not sure. I was referring to the practice of measuring when it's clearly short on the field based on the lines we're given.

(I know I'm repeating myself here....)

I trust the lines. Always. If we start on the 20 after a touchback and the ball is one inch short of the 30, it's short. I *will not measure*. I *will not* move the ball in that situation using the chains, either, because if I bring the chains out that one inch short could be a first down by the chains and that would be a problem.

Using the lines, IMO, is the only way everyone has a consistent frame of reference. The offense knows it needs the 30 and the defense knows it needs to hold the 30.

And since we start every new series (after a kickoff or punt) on a major yard line (actually, we don't, but we sure try to) we use the lines a lot. I'm not going to bring the chains out when we're a foot short so the chains prove the lines are off and we actually have a first down. The defense's coach would have a cardiac and I wouldn't blame him.

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