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Old Tue Oct 05, 2010, 07:45pm
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I've got a flag for illegal substitution. 12 in the formation after the ready for play.
What rule says there can't be 12 in the formation after the ready for play?
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Old Tue Oct 05, 2010, 09:54pm
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What rule says there can't be 12 in the formation after the ready for play?

3.7.1 Situation B COMMENT: . . .if the covering official’s count of players has determined there are more than 11 prior to the snap, a dead-ball illegal substitution foul should be charged since a replaced player(s) did not leave within three seconds.
We have been instructed that any time we observe 12 in the formation after the ready, we "blow it and throw it" - dead ball, illegal substitution. Most of the time we catch this type of illegal substitution in a "mass change" of players, such as defense taking over, kicking team running out, etc. We have been instructed to use the RFP as a reference point for enforcement.
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Old Tue Oct 05, 2010, 10:12pm
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Which you've been told doesn't mean much here if you don't have a rule to back it up.

If you have 12 players come on the field after a TO, there's no sub, there's no replaced player, hence there's no penalty.
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Old Wed Oct 06, 2010, 07:02am
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Which you've been told doesn't mean much here if you don't have a rule to back it up.

If you have 12 players come on the field after a TO, there's no sub, there's no replaced player, hence there's no penalty.
May not mean much to you, but it must mean something to NFHS or they wouldn't have put the comment in the casebook. Are you so married to the rules that you can't apply common sense in regard to the spirit? In regard to your last comment, how would you handle that? IP all the time?

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