One Point Safety

[GoodwillRef]

You going to rule that he batted the ball and it just didn't squirt out when he was trying to recover it? Why do people keep discussing plays that WILL NEVER EVER HAPPEN! We have so many plays that we get wrong that happen 5 times a game but officials stay up late at night watching infomercials about Shamwow thinking about plays that will never happen in a million, trillion, gazillion years. WHY?

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

You going to rule that he batted the ball and it just didn't squirt out when he was trying to recover it?

A muff of a grounded fumble can also impart a new force, so the result would be the same.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by mbyron

A muff of a grounded fumble can also impart a new force, so the result would be the same.

A much more likely possibility, albeit NCAA only, is an interception on a try (out of the EZ or brought out of the EZ) where the intercepting team somehow puts the ball in their own EZ (in any number of ways).

[bkdow]

I've had it almost happen and our league president has had it happen. It's also in the case book.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

You going to rule that he batted the ball and it just didn't squirt out when he was trying to recover it? Why do people keep discussing plays that WILL NEVER EVER HAPPEN! We have so many plays that we get wrong that happen 5 times a game but officials stay up late at night watching infomercials about Shamwow thinking about plays that will never happen in a million, trillion, gazillion years. WHY?

Never? Ask Texas A&M. a 1-point safety happened to them just last year.

[ODJ]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Never? Ask Texas A&M. a 1-point safety happened to them just last year.

DITTO!

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Never? Ask Texas A&M. a 1-point safety happened to them just last year.

Okay...you got me, it happen one time!

[Texas Aggie]

Ask Texas A&M. a 1-point safety happened to them just last year.

Actually, it was in 2004 and it was probably on a play where there was a missed illegally kicking call.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

You going to rule that he batted the ball and it just didn't squirt out when he was trying to recover it? Why do people keep discussing plays that WILL NEVER EVER HAPPEN! We have so many plays that we get wrong that happen 5 times a game but officials stay up late at night watching infomercials about Shamwow thinking about plays that will never happen in a million, trillion, gazillion years. WHY?

That's a very narrow minded approach.

If it's in the rule book, rest assured, it has happened. That's why it's in there.

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

That's a very narrow minded approach.

If it's in the rule book, rest assured, it has happened. That's why it's in there.

It not narrow minded, I just live in a state of reality! How many one-point safeties have you had in your career? This is my 19th season and I haven't and any...so this would never come up in a conversation about football officiating for me. I would rather talk about topics that WILL happen in the game (or more likely to happen) and make sure we get those right.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

It not narrow minded, I just live in a state of reality! How many one-point safeties have you had in your career? This is my 19th season and I haven't and any...so this would never come up in a conversation about football officiating for me. I would rather talk about topics that WILL happen in the game (or more likely to happen) and make sure we get those right.

The stuff you see every game or multiple times every game are the easy ones to get right because you see them so often. The weird stuff that you will only see once in a career is the stuff you're likely to get wrong because you haven't seen it before. We should spend more time talking about the strange, rare stuff because that's the stuff that's hard.

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

The stuff you see every game or multiple times every game are the easy ones to get right because you see them so often. The weird stuff that you will only see once in a career is the stuff you're likely to get wrong because you haven't seen it before. We should spend more time talking about the strange, rare stuff because that's the stuff that's hard.

I would tend to disagree with you, we should discuss the items that our crew needs to work on from game to game...not the once in a career play.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

I would tend to disagree with you, we should discuss the items that our crew needs to work on from game to game...not the once in a career play.

You should talk about what your crew needs to work on from game to game amongst your crew. Here? I think there's room for both. I'm not talking the craziest of the crazy TWP's (although that's more common in baseball/softball than here) - but stuff that might not happen often that everyone might not already have in their heads? Absolutely there's room for it here.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

I would tend to disagree with you, we should discuss the items that our crew needs to work on from game to game...not the once in a career play.

I see your point, but I still think you have to make time to study the strange plays that "you'll never see" because you will end up seeing them, maybe just once, but eventually you'll see it. Then you'll have one chance to have called it right, maybe even with the outcome of the game on the line. You'll either get it right because you studied it or you'll wing it and hope for the best because "it will never happen to me."

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

It not narrow minded, I just live in a state of reality! How many one-point safeties have you had in your career? This is my 19th season and I haven't and any...so this would never come up in a conversation about football officiating for me. I would rather talk about topics that WILL happen in the game (or more likely to happen) and make sure we get those right.

Okay...let's talk about the defense jumping into the neutral zone. That happens a lot in my games. What do you do when it happens in your games?

We learn be talking about strange situations. Then, we they happen, we don't stand there with that "WTF do we do now?" look on our faces.

I have discussed unique situations on this and the NFHS fourms, only to have them happen in my games. And becasue we had discussed them thoroughly, I was prepared for it.

Finally, if you don't don't want to involve yourself in the discussion, then why not just skip the thread?