Offensive encroachment??

[jTheUmp]

You got it right. A is guilty of encroachment if any part of an A player's body (except for the snapper) is in the neutral zone.

[mbyron]

How did your wing let him line up there? Something's fishy: you should never have encroachment like that.

[Rock Chalk]

Originally Posted by mbyron

How did your wing let him line up there? Something's fishy: you should never have encroachment like that.

He repeatedly told him to get back, and after plays would come up to them and tell them they were too far ahead. They apparently didn't listen to him.

[whitehat]

Encroachment is correct, RC. you got it right! don't you just love it when that happens?!

On the few occassions when I get to be a wing I will offer some help by telling the kid to back up or at least give him a second or so, as long as the snap is not imminent, to back up. Looks like your wing tried this more than once. Despite being a strong advocate of preventive officiating, bottom line is it is not the officials job to line a kid up...

Despite people who are a little to quick with the second guess and judgment trigger on this and other forums, the best possible learning environmnet is to ask questions like this in a safe evironmnet and all of us,regardless of experience level, to keep learning each game!

[Robert Goodman]

Suppose the neutral zone is set, and team A is playing without huddling. A1, returning from B's side of B's line of scrimmage, stops at a point where he's still encroaching. The wing official says, "Here's your line of scrimmage" and points, and A1 stands offside and drools. A's snapper isn't over the ball yet, but is getting there. At what point do you kill the play in Fed?

[jTheUmp]

Same as you do it when the defense lines up in the neutral zone in FED... kill it just before the snap.

[bossman72]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

Suppose the neutral zone is set, and team A is playing without huddling. A1, returning from B's side of B's line of scrimmage, stops at a point where he's still encroaching. The wing official says, "Here's your line of scrimmage" and points, and A1 stands offside and drools. A's snapper isn't over the ball yet, but is getting there. At what point do you kill the play in Fed?

(just like if the D lined up offside) I would give him ample time to move back. If he did not, I will blow it dead and call them for encroachment.

[ML99]

I had a situation - REC lined up far in the neutral zone and didn't listen to me to step back.

1) what would you do in this case - if the player doesn't listen to you? kill the play before the snap? flag it?

2) what to do if the player readjusts and moves back - at the same time the snaps starts.

3) what to do if the player readjusts and moves back - at the same time the snaps starts + another player is in motion

I threw a flag since the play started and he was 1-2 yrds in the neutral zone at the snap. When I reported to the HR he asked me for the foul and I told him enchroachment Offense. He replyed "why didn't you kill the play before the snap - we can't give them a penalty now after the play is over".

[Refsmitty]

If he is in the NZ at the RFP it is considered encroachment by rule.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Refsmitty

If he is in the NZ at the RFP it is considered encroachment by rule.

100% on the test.

Now in real life....

Originally Posted by Refsmitty

If he is in the NZ at the RFP it is considered encroachment by rule.

Even before the snapper puts his hand(s) on the ball?

[Refsmitty]

Once the RFP whistle has blown - it is encroachment