Some coaches just dont get it!

[whitehat]

Yes, as stated in my post, he did get an UC flag. and for the most part he quieted down a little, yet kept up his little digs and whinning at every opportunity. Just because you don't toss a coach doesn't mean there is "nothing to look at." Mbryon I take it you disagree?

All things considered, in the context of what he did and did not do we (I) handled it appropriatly and would not rethink it now to eject him.

My point is not to rethink what we did but to simply vent a bit that too many coaches just do not model the behavior that teens need to see despite their being (marginally) within the technical rules of conduct. To see coaches whine and beg and constantly complain (none of which in themselves, IMO, warrant an ejection) is not good for the game.

Do any of you toss a coach based strictly on the rule? Go read the rule and then answer honestly and your answer will be "no." Each of us has our thresholds and tolerance levels with coaches. Actually I am one to be fairly quick to flag coaches for UC.

I just wish coaches would keep things in perpsective. It is after all a game!

I am considering an email to the AD about the coaches conduct.

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by whitehat

It is after all a game! I am considering an email to the AD about the coaches conduct.

If after you've had a chance to reflect on the steps you took (and didn't take) and are comfortable with your decisions, you were correct. For what it's worth, I'd suggest you let the urge to email the AD pass. There's only a weak 50/50 chance your observations will be appreciated, and a lot less that they'll make any kind of a difference.

As you note, "It is after all a game' and when the game is over, it's over.

[bisonlj]

Raising this issue with the AD and/or state association would be playoff suicide in our state because coaches primarily decide our fate on their annual vote. Not only could that vote give you a bad vote but he could get his friends in the coaching ranks to give you a bad vote as well (no control over which coaches vote for which crews). Just another reason why our system needs a major overhaul.

[johnnyg08]

the coach ratings are a joke (what do they know about officiating?)...if he doesn't like your calls, you're not going to get a good rating anyway...simply because he's mad.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by whitehat

Yes, as stated in my post, he did get an UC flag. and for the most part he quieted down a little, yet kept up his little digs and whinning at every opportunity. Just because you don't toss a coach doesn't mean there is "nothing to look at." Mbryon I take it you disagree?

If you're addressing me, then no, I agree. I somehow missed the part of your post where you said you flagged the USC (saw only the sideline warning part).

I agree with the principle of doing what we can to keep coaches and players in the game. As a general rule, the contests are for the participants, and nobody wants an official who throws people out at the drop of a hat.

On the other hand, every league has its well-known bad actors. They've generally been around for a while, and they know how to push buttons to get their way. Until the officials association mans up sufficiently to enforce the rules with these clowns, they will continue to misbehave and be an annoyance for everyone. Sure, passive-aggressive is cowardly; but if we don't deal with it, who's the coward now?

It sounds as if you felt it was a borderline case, and those are always frustrating. Clearly bad behavior, but you feel it didn't warrant an EJ.

[kdf5]

In our game last Friday the home team is up big and the gap is still increasing. The D coordinator wants our LJ to call the visitors for encroachment. When he doesn't get the call he says we're a bunch of "dickweeds". Now, I don't care who you are, that's funny!

Coaches are coaches. Some have more class than others but when they cross the line ding 'em, otherwise keep your skin thick.

[ajmc]

It's really a shame when these topics turn into, "Some officials just don't get it". Officials express their opinions about relevant issues, which can be helpful and educational, or sometimes not. I would submit the only times the input sinks to the level of "stupid" is when an individual presumes what they do, say or think is the absolute only way to act, speak or think.

At some point we all go through a period (hopefully really brief) when we think we've learned everything and somehow stop leaving an odor behind in the bathroom. For the great majority we quickly realize that's just an illusion and get our heads back out of our dumpers.

Sadly, some seem to linger in their fantasy and actually believe that their opinions are somehow worth more than anyone elses. "Opinions are like a$$holes, everyone has one and it's just a little different than anyone else's".

This forum works best when we all keep our minds on football, rather than personalities. Either you agree with what someone opines, or you don't. We come from different areas and sometimes do things differently (different, not necessarily better). There's no need for "cheap shots" and nobody worth impressing is impressed by cheap shots, which seem to often originate in the same circles. We all have the all the opportunities to hear really stupid remarks on Friday nights or Saturday afternoons, so all the "bush league" smart aleck nonsense is just....unnecessary.

To those guys who think you know it all, you don't and if you keep doing what we do long enough, you'll mature enough to understand that. Unfortunately, some never find a way to get over that hump, so you really need to work on it.