Kicked PAT

[Forksref]

When do you sound your whistle on a kicked PAT and WHO does it? (5-man)

[Warrenkicker]

R should blow the whistle and it his his determination as to when to blow it. If he knows the kick was not blocked, pretty easy to determine by a lack of sound of a block, he should blow it pretty quickly once it leaves his peripheral vision. If it is blocked then he can see the best when it is obvious the kick will not score if the ball comes back into the backfield.

[Bullycon]

Seems to be a crew-by-crew thing here. Some want the back judge to blow it. Some want the linesman to blow it.

[kdf5]

On our crew the R takes the whistle on trys and the guys under the pipes take the whistle on FG's.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Forksref

When do you sound your whistle on a kicked PAT and WHO does it? (5-man)

CANADIAN MECHANICS:

The convert is dead once the ball is kicked, so if the LS is:

• on or inside the B-10, the Referee sounds the whistle when the call is kicked and rules on the attempt,
• outside the B-10, the BU and HL under the uprights sound+signal once the ball is wide or good

[Reffing Rev.]

Blowing the whistle as soon as the ball clears, while accepted in many locations is technically speaking an IW as the ball doesn't become dead until either the kick is successful or obviously unsuccessful.

Whenever an official is certain the PAT kick is unsuccessful he should blow the play dead. Whenever any official...R, BJ, whatever.

Slower on the whistle prevents mistakes. Especially in FED when their is a difference between PAT and FG. SLOW DOWN.

[VALJ]

In Central Va. we have the BJ take the whistle.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Reffing Rev.

Blowing the whistle as soon as the ball clears, while accepted in many locations is technically speaking an IW as the ball doesn't become dead until either the kick is successful or obviously unsuccessful.

Whenever an official is certain the PAT kick is unsuccessful he should blow the play dead. Whenever any official...R, BJ, whatever.

Slower on the whistle prevents mistakes. Especially in FED when their is a difference between PAT and FG. SLOW DOWN.

And I couldn't possibly care if it's technically anything. I blow it (as the R) as soon as (well, about a second after) it's kicked. I just watched video of our first game and the timing couldn't be more natural.

I'm smart enough to not blow it on a FG. I'm too busy reminding everyone else to stay off their whistles.

[ppaltice]

Ina Alabama...

On PATs with kicks that cross the GL, the BJ (or SJ) blows the whistle. On PATs that are blocked and don't cross the GL, R blows the whistle.

On FGs, only the BJ (or SJ) blows the whistle for kicks that cross the GL.

[Ref inSoCA]

BJ (5) or LJ (4) is the only whistle.

If you blow it when it is kicked it you are killing the ball and it cannot score.

[bisonlj]

Originally Posted by Reffing Rev.

Blowing the whistle as soon as the ball clears, while accepted in many locations is technically speaking an IW as the ball doesn't become dead until either the kick is successful or obviously unsuccessful.

Whenever an official is certain the PAT kick is unsuccessful he should blow the play dead. Whenever any official...R, BJ, whatever.

Slower on the whistle prevents mistakes. Especially in FED when their is a difference between PAT and FG. SLOW DOWN.

I'm waiting for the first coach to call a time out to discuss a rule interpretation on this. He's technically right so you can't charge him a time-out. You'll have to appeal to his common sense and explain that while technically you had an IW, you are not going to call it in this instance.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by bisonlj

I'm waiting for the first coach to call a time out to discuss a rule interpretation on this. He's technically right so you can't charge him a time-out. You'll have to appeal to his common sense and explain that while technically you had an IW, you are not going to call it in this instance.

That would cost the coach a time out and the conference would be very short, indeed.

[bisonlj]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

That would cost the coach a time out and the conference would be very short, indeed.

Except he would technically be right! The whistle sounded before the ball went through the uprights. That kills the play right there. I agree he's being silly but what would you tell him?

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by bisonlj

I'm waiting for the first coach to call a time out to discuss a rule interpretation on this. He's technically right so you can't charge him a time-out. You'll have to appeal to his common sense and explain that while technically you had an IW, you are not going to call it in this instance.

Then again, the instant you realized what this fool was asking for the time out to discuss, you could simply ignore him and go on with your regular duties. If he wanted to make an issue out of it, he has the absolute right to complain to the appropriate authorities, which would only clarify to them what a fool he is.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by ajmc

Then again, the instant you realized what this fool was asking for the time out to discuss, you could simply ignore him and go on with your regular duties. If he wanted to make an issue out of it, he has the absolute right to complain to the appropriate authorities, which would only clarify to them what a fool he is.

Which is what I would do. I'd tell him to ask for me if he had anything to actually discuss and get myself to the goal line, where I belong.