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Old Sun Sep 06, 2009, 01:31pm
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UW game fumble..no replay.

Some of you NCAA guys explain to me why they weren't able to review and subsequently reverse the ruling on the field of the obvious fumble inside the 5 yard line by Northern Illinois versus Wisconsin last night. White hat blew it dead that QB was down. (Ball was clearly out on the hit as replays showed.)

If that had happened in the final 2 minutes of a big-time game, this would be the biggest story in football today.
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Old Sun Sep 06, 2009, 01:36pm
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If you have an official that blew the play dead, not sure what you can review? You have a loose ball that players likely stopped when they heard the whistle. You cannot overturn or change a call that was ruled down already.

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Old Sun Sep 06, 2009, 02:44pm
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I had a similar question as I thought it was a fumble as well, but I was watching it at a place that didn't have the sound on.

My other question about that game though was a reversed defensive pass interference call in that game, that benefited Wisconsin.. Quarterback from Northern Ill. threw a pass that was touched by a defensive lineman. The ball continued in the air to a receiver who was interfered with by a defensive player. Watching the replays, I did not see the U give the motion for touching, and a flag was thrown for DPI. The booth then reviewed the play, saw the touching, and waived off the flag, and the play resulted in an incomplete pass. I am just curious that if the booth calls for a replay on this play, what would stop them from using the booth to review other called or non-called fouls in the game?

PS - Sat next to a couple (UW fans) who were so obnoxious in complaining about the officials that it was almost comical. And this coming from a UW fan myself.
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Old Sun Sep 06, 2009, 02:48pm
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Didn't see the play but the U is not the only person that can recognize or give a "tip" signal.

BTW, isn't that what fans do?

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Old Sun Sep 06, 2009, 02:51pm
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Didn't see the play but the U is not the only person that can recognize or give a "tip" signal.

BTW, isn't that what fans do?

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That is true, I guess I just typically look to the U for something like that, and he was in the screen when they showed the replay of it.

Yeah, then these "Fans" after the play in the original post were upset because the officials "took away" a caused fumble and subsequent fumble recovery for the defensive player. They were real wonderful......
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Old Sun Sep 06, 2009, 02:59pm
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That is true, I guess I just typically look to the U for something like that, and he was in the screen when they showed the replay of it.
My only point was that he is not the only person that can acknowledge a tip. Any official can signal a tip if they see it and if it could affect the possible call. You are right though, typically this is something you see the U make. But I have seen the R do it and I have as a BJ if I see it. It just depends on what you see and when you see it.

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Yeah, then these "Fans" after the play in the original post were upset because the officials "took away" a caused fumble and subsequent fumble recovery for the defensive player. They were real wonderful......
I have been to a lot of college football games and even the team I am cheering for are clueless when it comes to officiating. That is just the way it is. I am never surprised by people that have been drinking and what they say about the officiating.

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Old Sun Sep 06, 2009, 03:36pm
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I am just curious that if the booth calls for a replay on this play, what would stop them from using the booth to review other called or non-called fouls in the game?
The rules on what is able to be reviewed. The officials aren't making this stuff up as they go.
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Old Sun Sep 06, 2009, 04:57pm
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Some of you NCAA guys explain to me why they weren't able to review and subsequently reverse the ruling on the field of the obvious fumble inside the 5 yard line by Northern Illinois versus Wisconsin last night. White hat blew it dead that QB was down. (Ball was clearly out on the hit as replays showed.)
What could you change the call to? Inadvertent whistle?
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Old Sun Sep 06, 2009, 07:09pm
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Contact between a player and the ball is reviewable...contact between players is not.
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Old Sun Sep 06, 2009, 07:14pm
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Some of you NCAA guys explain to me why they weren't able to review and subsequently reverse the ruling on the field of the obvious fumble inside the 5 yard line by Northern Illinois versus Wisconsin last night. White hat blew it dead that QB was down. (Ball was clearly out on the hit as replays showed.)

If that had happened in the final 2 minutes of a big-time game, this would be the biggest story in football today.

Here... go to this link: http://www.ncaapublications.com/Uplo...f15136079d.pdf

Then scroll on down to FR-140.. This is rule-12. You can read all about how replay is handled and when it can't be.
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Old Mon Sep 07, 2009, 01:54pm
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PS - Sat next to a couple (UW fans) who were so obnoxious in complaining about the officials that it was almost comical. And this coming from a UW fan myself.
If the game was in Madison, then I understand the condition of the fans. If I went to school in Madison, I think I'd have liver damage. Too many beer gardens within staggering distance of Camp Randall.
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Old Mon Sep 07, 2009, 02:23pm
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If the game was in Madison, then I understand the condition of the fans. If I went to school in Madison, I think I'd have liver damage. Too many beer gardens within staggering distance of Camp Randall.
Haha, very true. I was actually at an establishment in Milwaukee watching the game, but that doesn't make much difference.
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