NF - Enforcement question

[kdf5]

A loose ball and a loose ball play have distinct and different definitions. Walt posted the LBP, here's the definition of a loose ball:

2-1-3...A loose ball is a pass, fumble or a kick. The terms “pass,” “fumble”
and “kick” are sometimes used as abbreviations when the ball is loose following
the acts of passing, fumbling or kicking the ball. A loose ball which has not yet
touched the ground is in flight. A grounded loose ball is one which has touched the ground. Any loose ball continues to be a loose ball until a player secures
possession of it or until it becomes dead by rule, whichever comes first.

[kfo9494]

Originally Posted by kdf5

A loose ball and a loose ball play have distinct and different definitions.

You know, even though it is easy for me to understand now, when I first started officiating football I thought since it happened why the ball was loose it was a loose ball play.
Even today when we have newer people calling in our crews I tell them I never what to her that it happened during a loose ball. I want to hear it happened during a fumble, pass,or kick. You are always going to have time to talk about the play since there is nearly always a penalty going to be enforced. That is just my way of getting away from calling all fumbles 'loose balls".

[HLin NC]

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[mbyron]

1. Beanbag the end of the run.
2. Flag the foul.
3. Follow the action to B's endzone.
4. Bring it back according to what walt said:

Originally Posted by waltjp

The basic spot is the end of the related run, B's 24, where A88 fumbled. The foul was committed by B before B secured possession of the ball. Because B did not gain possession with 'clean hands' they are not keeping the ball. The penalty will be enforced from B's 24. The result will be 1/10 for A from B's 19, or B's 12 if the facemask was a 15-yarder.

[HLin NC]

Excellente' Senor Byron