Penalty enforcement

[daggo66]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Sorry dude, that's not how forums work. Everybody gets to post his or her opinion, no matter how idiotic. It's up to you to decide what's good, and to try to ignore the rest.

Are you implying my opinion was idiotic? His questions are good questions, but they are novice questions nonetheless. I would tell anyone with those questions that they need more experience. I apologize if my frame of reference is different from most. Where I officiate, inexperienced officials work their way up from youth to JV to Varsity.

[mikesears]

Originally Posted by daggo66

Are you implying my opinion was idiotic? His questions are good questions, but they are novice questions nonetheless. I would tell anyone with those questions that they need more experience. I apologize if my frame of reference is different from most. Where I officiate, inexperienced officials work their way up from youth to JV to Varsity.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinoin, not matter how stupid it might be, right?

I know you weren't asking me but I do agree with you that some of his questions are basic questions. They are much like the questions I asked as a newly licensed official. I give this site (and a few others) credit for developing my knowledge of the rulebook at a much faster rate than I would have gotten on my own.

My story is that I was a Referee of my own crew at the start of my third year because I was tired of waiting, but I look back and wonder how badly I messed stuff up. Most new officials don't know how much they don't know and are anxious to work "meaningful" games.

I think we both agree that we are glad the poster is here asking them and I saw that encouragement in your post.

[HLin NC]

Brandon, do you have a set of rule books yet? If not, I'd suggest you ask someone in your HS league to see if they might donate you a set of last year's. While there are changes, both in the rules and editorially, the change is not so great that you couldn't utilize them. You can print off the synopsis of 2009 changes off the Federation website

I had a supervisor (in my day job) that absolutely refused to answer a question until he had determined that I had looked it up in the policy manual first.

Its great that you want to learn but you and your new association will be better served by getting in the rule book and looking it up first. If something confuses you then ask members of the association you are joining. Every officials association is going to have different takes on certain rules and you want to ensure that the interpretation you use is the one that your association wants-not what we discuss here or on the other boards.

Also I would order two supplemental guides- the Reddings NFHS Guide and the Fed's Rules by Topic. Redding';s is available from Honig's and the Rules by Topic guide can be had from Referee Magazine. Those two books are excellent study resources as they break the rule book down into a more mentally digestable format.

If you are new to NFHS rules, I'd shy away from the case book for awhile, unless you loved word problems in school or are a whiz with the Federal tax code.

[Brandon Kincer]

Originally Posted by HLin NC

Brandon, do you have a set of rule books yet? If not, I'd suggest you ask someone in your HS league to see if they might donate you a set of last year's. While there are changes, both in the rules and editorially, the change is not so great that you couldn't utilize them. You can print off the synopsis of 2009 changes off the Federation website

I had a supervisor (in my day job) that absolutely refused to answer a question until he had determined that I had looked it up in the policy manual first.

Its great that you want to learn but you and your new association will be better served by getting in the rule book and looking it up first. If something confuses you then ask members of the association you are joining. Every officials association is going to have different takes on certain rules and you want to ensure that the interpretation you use is the one that your association wants-not what we discuss here or on the other boards.

Also I would order two supplemental guides- the Reddings NFHS Guide and the Fed's Rules by Topic. Redding';s is available from Honig's and the Rules by Topic guide can be had from Referee Magazine. Those two books are excellent study resources as they break the rule book down into a more mentally digestable format.

If you are new to NFHS rules, I'd shy away from the case book for awhile, unless you loved word problems in school or are a whiz with the Federal tax code.

Yes sir, I have a 2008 rule book, 2008-09 officials manual, and 2008 case book. I study them hard every chance I get. My nose has been stuck in that book ever since I recieved them in the mail. Im not new to NFHS rules because the recreation dept. that I ref for uses that book. Im just trying to work through some loop holes and make sure that I understand the rules clearly. Up to this point, all of my questions have been pretty much answered.

Are you implying my opinion was idiotic? His questions are good questions, but they are novice questions nonetheless. I would tell anyone with those questions that they need more experience. I apologize if my frame of reference is different from most. Where I officiate, inexperienced officials work their way up from youth to JV to Varsity.

Just to make this clear, I do not think your opinion is in anyway idiotic. My point was you were saying that I am "Not Ready simply because I ask questions you consider to be "Novice" Some of the questions im asking I already know the answer to but just want to be sure that I am getting things right before I step up to the next level. Any piece of advice you can give me is greatly valued but I do ask that you do not cut me down just for asking questions, not necessarly that I don't know anything about, but that im just not clear on. Your comment of me being not ready was clearly nothing more than that of a cut down because you didn't even answer the question. You just simply stated that im "Not Ready"

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by daggo66

Are you implying my opinion was idiotic?

No, not in what I said there.