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Old Thu May 14, 2009, 04:40pm
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What penalties can be called on:

Offense but not Defense
Defense but not Offense
Both
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Old Thu May 14, 2009, 05:24pm
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This brings to mind one of my favorite penalty stories. Just an average play in an average game, the umpire drops a flag reasonably close to the B sideline. He reports to me he has clipping on B. The B coach, noticeably upset shouts out, "hey Bob, the defense can't clip". To which he replies, "you're right coach, the defense can't clip." The B coach looks really confused at this point, especially since Bob is continuing with the 15 yd walk-off. Once again we hear, "but Bob, the defense CAN'T clip!" To which Bob just replies, "you got it coach, the defense can't clip that's why there's a flag." The coach throws his hands up in frustration, Bob sets the ball down and I blow it ready while telling Bob who's just grinning at me "you're killing me, you know that right?"
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Old Fri May 15, 2009, 05:46am
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This brings to mind one of my favorite penalty stories. Just an average play in an average game, the umpire drops a flag reasonably close to the B sideline. He reports to me he has clipping on B. The B coach, noticeably upset shouts out, "hey Bob, the defense can't clip". To which he replies, "you're right coach, the defense can't clip." The B coach looks really confused at this point, especially since Bob is continuing with the 15 yd walk-off. Once again we hear, "but Bob, the defense CAN'T clip!" To which Bob just replies, "you got it coach, the defense can't clip that's why there's a flag." The coach throws his hands up in frustration, Bob sets the ball down and I blow it ready while telling Bob who's just grinning at me "you're killing me, you know that right?"

I LOVE agreeing with the coach! I once worked a youth game and after a catch the opposing coach was yelling that the receiver only had one foot inbounds. "Thanks coach, that's what I saw as well." "BUT HE ONLY HAD ONE FOOT IN." "Coach, you're right I agee with you." "HUH?"
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Old Sat May 16, 2009, 08:26am
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This brings to mind one of my favorite penalty stories. Just an average play in an average game, the umpire drops a flag reasonably close to the B sideline. He reports to me he has clipping on B. The B coach, noticeably upset shouts out, "hey Bob, the defense can't clip". To which he replies, "you're right coach, the defense can't clip." The B coach looks really confused at this point, especially since Bob is continuing with the 15 yd walk-off. Once again we hear, "but Bob, the defense CAN'T clip!" To which Bob just replies, "you got it coach, the defense can't clip that's why there's a flag." The coach throws his hands up in frustration, Bob sets the ball down and I blow it ready while telling Bob who's just grinning at me "you're killing me, you know that right?"
That's as good as it gets! Kudos to Bob. I've got to remember that one.
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Old Thu May 14, 2009, 06:10pm
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What penalties can be called on:

Offense but not Defense
Defense but not Offense
Both
I'm pretty sure the defense or receiving team can not be guilty of -

Intentional Grounding
Ineligible Down field
False Start
Snap Infraction
Illegal Formation
Planned Loose Ball Infraction
Illegal Touching
Free Kick Infraction
Kick Catching Interference

The offense or kicking team can not be guilty of -

Roughing the Passer, Kicker, Holder, Snapper
Illegal or Invalid Fair Catch Signal
Running into Kicker, Holder or Snapper
Illegal Blocking after Fair Catch Signal
Illegal block below waist or on free-kicker or holder
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Old Sat May 16, 2009, 10:23am
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Cool Wait a minute!

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The offense or kicking team can not be guilty of -

Illegal block below waist or on free-kicker or holder
Hey Walt-
When did they open up the rule to allow the offense and the kicking team to block below the waist?
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Hey Walt-
When did they open up the rule to allow the offense and the kicking team to block below the waist?
My bad - should be:

The offense or kicking team can not be guilty of -

FROM:

Illegal block below waist or on free-kicker or holder

TO:

Illegal block below waist on the free-kicker or holder
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Old Sat May 16, 2009, 12:46pm
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Well, er um OK then, but uh,
When was the last time you saw the holder on the recieving end of a block below the waist?
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Well, er um OK then, but uh,
When was the last time you saw the holder on the recieving end of a block below the waist?
I'm just reporting what's written in the book.
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Old Thu May 14, 2009, 06:46pm
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What penalties can be called on:

Offense but not Defense
Defense but not Offense
Both
All of the above:
5 yard
10 yard
15 yard
Half the distance
DQ
Spot
Special enforcement (see kicking)

These are the penalties and they apply to both teams. They are applicable depending upon what foul may have been committed and the location on the field.
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All of the above:
5 yard
10 yard
15 yard
Half the distance
DQ
Spot
Special enforcement (see kicking)

These are the penalties and they apply to both teams. They are applicable depending upon what foul may have been committed and the location on the field.
Excellent point!
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Old Thu May 14, 2009, 06:54pm
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Read, study, learn and know rule 2!!
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Read, study, learn and know rule 2!!
Don't push it. LOL.
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All of the above:
5 yard
10 yard
15 yard
Half the distance
DQ
Spot
Special enforcement (see kicking)

These are the penalties and they apply to both teams. They are applicable depending upon what foul may have been committed and the location on the field.
in saying "all of the above", do you mean all penaties can be called on both teams or what waltjp said?
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Old Thu May 14, 2009, 09:44pm
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in saying "all of the above", do you mean all penaties can be called on both teams or what waltjp said?
Yes, all penalties can be called (accessed) on both. Not all fouls can be committed by both.

Walt responded to what you meant, I responded to what you said. This is a prime example of why we should all master Rule 2 (Definitions) and be able use them properly when communicating. Think of it like this, a foul is an infraction of the rules and a penalty is the punishment that is accessed for committing a foul.
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