NFHS Ball Mechanics

[Rich]

[QUOTE=Ref Ump Welsch;555000][QUOTE=ajmc;554925]The point I was trying to make, is that neither team is entitled to, or should receive, ANY special treatment related to the pace of the RFP for ANY reason, much less when it's suggested when a change of pace is intended to give one team an advantage.

I think you better re-read the original post. The officials gave special treatment to the home team, after the visiting coach mentioned his offense was a hurry-up offense. The coach was trying to equalize it, and I'll admit he went a little bit too far with his reasoning, but he was put at a disadvantage by the officiating crew AFTER he originally stated he had a hurry-up offense. Not to judge the crew, the posting made it sound like the crew heard "hurry-up" and and became offended by it. That's the arrogance I was speaking of.

Hurry-up doesn't mean the officials should be in any more hurry to start a new series than in any other game. What the team does after the normal RFP is completely up to them.

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Hurry-up doesn't mean the officials should be in any more hurry to start a new series than in any other game. What the team does after the normal RFP is completely up to them.

Oh, so when the clock is ticking down to the last few seconds, we can screw the team trailing and in the hurry up offense out of their time? With the logic in your quote, I take it that we don't need to hustle. Watch a game at the NFL and college level, and what do you see happening when the clock is ticking down? You see the crew hustling like crazy because the offense is hustling because of the clock running down. Now, if that isn't giving an advantage, what is?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

Oh, so when the clock is ticking down to the last few seconds, we can screw the team trailing and in the hurry up offense out of their time? With the logic in your quote, I take it that we don't need to hustle. Watch a game at the NFL and college level, and what do you see happening when the clock is ticking down? You see the crew hustling like crazy because the offense is hustling because of the clock running down. Now, if that isn't giving an advantage, what is?

That is the default pace.

We can slow down if the teams aren't ready to snap right away or if the clock isn't running and we need the time.

Trust me, if the clock is running and the team is working no-huddle, we're hustling whether it's the last minute or the first minute.

But this (described in this thread) is a new series and the clock is stopped. Taking the proper time here does what, other than screw the defense out of the chance to properly substitute?

I guarantee, every time there is a new series I take the same amount of time. Nobody is going to hurry me or the crew into making a mistake, the clock isn't running.

[Ed Hickland]

The mechanic described in the original post is similar to the NCAA mechanic. Most of the time ball coming in is from the home team side, for instance, always on a change of possession the ball will always come from the home team side. The only time the ball comes from the visiting team side is when the ball goes out of bounds on the visiting team sideline.

[azbigdawg]

For subvarsity games here (Arizona) we usually get ONE ball from each team, and a ball boy provided by the home team He gets the ball in to the line Judge (or umpire if the LJ is downfield).

For varsity games, we get TWO balls from each team (and TWO ballboys), and the balls still come in from the home side. For long incomplections,etc we just grab the second ball. Works like magic.