Sayville NY Protest

[TXMike]

Pulled from another forum:


The video of this play is on Newsday's website. You've got to see it to believe it.

http://www.newsday.com/video/?autoSt...clipId=2995059
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You haven't heard the last of the wild ending in Kings Park's 41-35 win over Sayville on Saturday. Sayville will file a written protest this morning at the Section XI offices in regard to the final play of regulation.

With six seconds left and Sayville leading 35-27, Sayville faced a fourth-and-1 from its own 30. Dillon Boos fumbled the snap and the ball bounced toward halfback Corey Caulfield. A video shows the ball squirt just out of Caulfield's reach. Kings Park's Trevor Ruxton goes down on two knees, grabs the ball with two hands and throws it over his head toward the Sayville goal line.

Then, Kings Park's Sean Russell beat Terrence Macken to the ball, catches it on a bounce, and runs in a TD to make it 35-33 as time expired. A two-point conversion tied it at 35 and then KP won in overtime.

Sayville coach Rob Hoss requested a meeting with head ref Ed Hickland to address the play before the two-pointer. "I told him that the Kings Park player was down on his knees with the ball and that he threw an illegal forward pass toward our end zone," he said. "I said, 'This is just ridiculous and I'm protesting the play right now.'"

Hoss said Hickland told him that he didn't see it that way and told him to leave the field. A phone call to the president of the Suffolk County Football Officials Association was not returned.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/footba...,5494847.story

[JugglingReferee]

The film certainly shows that the coach has a very very very good point.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by TXMike

Sayville coach Rob Hoss requested a meeting with head ref Ed Hickland to address the play before the two-pointer. "I told him that the Kings Park player was down on his knees with the ball and that he threw an illegal forward pass toward our end zone," he said. "I said, 'This is just ridiculous and I'm protesting the play right now.'"

Hoss said Hickland told him that he didn't see it that way and told him to leave the field. A phone call to the president of the Suffolk County Football Officials Association was not returned.

Is this the Ed Hickland who frequents this board?

[FTVMartin]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Is this the Ed Hickland who frequents this board?

That's what I was just thinking.


It sure looks like he is down and also threw an illegal forward pass.

[BktBallRef]

Ed, nothing personal, we all make mistakes. We just hope it doesn't end up on YouTube or even worse, the local news. I feel your pain, partner.

[bcl1127]

I am going to venture a guess here, but I don't think I agree with it at all...

I going to guess that the official did not think that he had possession when his knee was on the ground and then batted the loose ball.

Looking at the video I don't think that is the case but that would be my guess as to what the official on the field was thinking.

[daggo66]

It looks to me as if the offense actually recovers the ball and the defender rips it out and tosses it over his head in the process. It should have been dead before the defense even got it.

[TXMike]

Originally Posted by bcl1127

I am going to venture a guess here, but I don't think I agree with it at all...

I going to guess that the official did not think that he had possession when his knee was on the ground and then batted the loose ball.

Looking at the video I don't think that is the case but that would be my guess as to what the official on the field was thinking.

NFHS allows you to legally bat a loose ball forward?

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Ed, nothing personal, we all make mistakes. We just hope it doesn't end up on YouTube or even worse, the local news. I feel your pain, partner.

It already has unfortunately. Ed, hang in there.

[TXMike]

It ain't all bad...over 30% of the people responding to the Newsday site's poll think it was the right call (no call)

[insatty]

The Referee is right on top of this play. The ball is dead when the defender recovers the muffed snap. His toss over his head is a dead-ball delay-of-game foul. If one were to argue that the defender did not possess the ball at the time of the over-head toss, then you have an illegal-batting foul.

After the coach alerts the Referee, shouldn't the crew have gotten together and made the correct call? Bring back the ball to the recovery spot and put time on the clock, an untimed down for B on the a game-ending foul, or declare the game over. What a cluster@#&%!

I'm glad it didn't happen to me, but recall the football-official's adage: Learn from others' mistakes, because if you make them all yourself you won't be around too long.

[MrUmpire]

It appeears that the white hat was within ten feet of the player who was on his knees when he tossed the ball. What was he looking at?

[JamesBond]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Is this the Ed Hickland who frequents this board?

It is the same.

[Ed Hickland]

Originally Posted by JamesBond

It is the same.

Yes, it is. For various reasons cannot talk about it.

[kdf5]

Stuff happens, Ed. 99.9% of the people who criticize officials don't have the b**** to put on the stripes and walk out on the field. This, too, shall pass.