Sayville NY Protest

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by TXMike

Sayville coach Rob Hoss requested a meeting with head ref Ed Hickland to address the play before the two-pointer. "I told him that the Kings Park player was down on his knees with the ball and that he threw an illegal forward pass toward our end zone," he said. "I said, 'This is just ridiculous and I'm protesting the play right now.'"

Hoss said Hickland told him that he didn't see it that way and told him to leave the field. A phone call to the president of the Suffolk County Football Officials Association was not returned.

Is this the Ed Hickland who frequents this board?

[FTVMartin]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Is this the Ed Hickland who frequents this board?

That's what I was just thinking.


It sure looks like he is down and also threw an illegal forward pass.

[BktBallRef]

Ed, nothing personal, we all make mistakes. We just hope it doesn't end up on YouTube or even worse, the local news. I feel your pain, partner.

[bcl1127]

I am going to venture a guess here, but I don't think I agree with it at all...

I going to guess that the official did not think that he had possession when his knee was on the ground and then batted the loose ball.

Looking at the video I don't think that is the case but that would be my guess as to what the official on the field was thinking.

[daggo66]

It looks to me as if the offense actually recovers the ball and the defender rips it out and tosses it over his head in the process. It should have been dead before the defense even got it.

[Forksref]

Around here I've never heard of a protest even being allowed. Game over.

[rngrck]

Wow!! If I'm that official I blow the whistle right there, the ball is down at the recovery and game is over.

[Murd]

Originally Posted by Forksref

Around here I've never heard of a protest even being allowed. Game over.

This protest wasn't allowed either. It was a judgement call and it's not reviewable.

[TXMike]

Originally Posted by bcl1127

I am going to venture a guess here, but I don't think I agree with it at all...

I going to guess that the official did not think that he had possession when his knee was on the ground and then batted the loose ball.

Looking at the video I don't think that is the case but that would be my guess as to what the official on the field was thinking.

NFHS allows you to legally bat a loose ball forward?

[Mike L]

Only in certain restricted situations, of which this example is not one.

[bcl1127]

My point was that while the play looks like there were many things wrong to it for me, I was just guessing as to what was going through the mind of the official in the video.

I did state I did not agree with the call...

[Bob M.]

Originally Posted by TXMike

NFHS allows you to legally bat a loose ball forward?

REPLY: No Mike...in Fed you can never legally bat a grounded loose ball forward, i.e. toward your opponent's goal line.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Bob M.

REPLY: No Mike...in Fed you can never legally bat a grounded loose ball forward, i.e. toward your opponent's goal line.

It's easy to Monday-morning quarterback, but this kind of thing happens when you get too close to the play, as it appears the white hat is. Fumble doesn't mean "get as close to the ball as you possibly can."

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Ed, nothing personal, we all make mistakes. We just hope it doesn't end up on YouTube or even worse, the local news. I feel your pain, partner.

It already has unfortunately. Ed, hang in there.

[TXMike]

It ain't all bad...over 30% of the people responding to the Newsday site's poll think it was the right call (no call)