Sayville NY Protest

[TXMike]

It ain't all bad...over 30% of the people responding to the Newsday site's poll think it was the right call (no call)

[Jim D]

Originally Posted by TXMike

ANother story from newsday.com ( a "heads up play" ??????)

Kings Park player is toast of town for heads-up playBY GREGG SARRA | [email protected]
12:18 PM EDT, October 9, 2008

"The ref was standing right there. How could he not see [Kelly] throw the ball over his head. You can't even do that in a schoolyard with 10-year-olds. It was totally illegal. That's not a play, that's not real, no way."

It's very real

This is one of those plays that's easier to call from a distance than from on the field. At first, it looks like A might recover, but they held their whistles and the ball slips out. Then as the R closed in to see if B recovers the ball flew out of the pile. I think the either wing would have had a better look at it than the white hat.

This play could should have had a flag (which could have been picked up if needed) or a discussion after the play and a late flag -that wouldn't have been very good but it would be better than letting it stand.

[JamesBond]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Is this the Ed Hickland who frequents this board?

It is the same.

[jontheref]

And there is no linesman around that can help on this play????

[Ed Hickland]

Originally Posted by JamesBond

It is the same.

Yes, it is. For various reasons cannot talk about it.

[kdf5]

Stuff happens, Ed. 99.9% of the people who criticize officials don't have the b**** to put on the stripes and walk out on the field. This, too, shall pass.

[Jimmie24]

Keep your head up Ed. Been there done that, it passes eventually.

[insatty]

The Referee is right on top of this play. The ball is dead when the defender recovers the muffed snap. His toss over his head is a dead-ball delay-of-game foul. If one were to argue that the defender did not possess the ball at the time of the over-head toss, then you have an illegal-batting foul.

After the coach alerts the Referee, shouldn't the crew have gotten together and made the correct call? Bring back the ball to the recovery spot and put time on the clock, an untimed down for B on the a game-ending foul, or declare the game over. What a cluster@#&%!

I'm glad it didn't happen to me, but recall the football-official's adage: Learn from others' mistakes, because if you make them all yourself you won't be around too long.

[JasonTX]

I had a play similar to this early this season. My play went like this:

Team A snaps from the A-1. The ball is muffed and is in the end zone. I am the R. A scramble for the ball. As I am moving into a position to see the ball it suddenly comes "spiraling" out backwards from near the ground up to a running back who runs it out of the end zone and is down at about the A-5. We didn't get any complaints about it, but the questions that I had were:

1. Was there a player on the ground who passed the ball? If so, the ball should have been dead. Myself and both wings discussed it and neither of us had a view of the player who caused the ball to come out.

2. Was the ball batted to the running back? If so we should have a flag. My thought was that it was not because I seen the spiral, so that indicated to me that a player had to have controlled it and then passed it.

[bcl1127]

This is just one of those plays where it is split second and sometimes the brain does not react fast enough. I think that everyone who has ever put on a striped shirt and officiated a game will know that you can never get everything that happens on the field.

[Bob M.]

Originally Posted by TXMike

NFHS allows you to legally bat a loose ball forward?

REPLY: No Mike...in Fed you can never legally bat a grounded loose ball forward, i.e. toward your opponent's goal line.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Bob M.

REPLY: No Mike...in Fed you can never legally bat a grounded loose ball forward, i.e. toward your opponent's goal line.

It's easy to Monday-morning quarterback, but this kind of thing happens when you get too close to the play, as it appears the white hat is. Fumble doesn't mean "get as close to the ball as you possibly can."

[MrUmpire]

It appeears that the white hat was within ten feet of the player who was on his knees when he tossed the ball. What was he looking at?

[Murd]

Originally Posted by Forksref

Around here I've never heard of a protest even being allowed. Game over.

This protest wasn't allowed either. It was a judgement call and it's not reviewable.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by TXMike

"Coach Hoss called a quick kick to catch them off guard and I was going to toss it back to Corey," Boos said. "I fumbled it after the snap because I was trying to do it so fast.

You quick kick with 6 secs. left and an 8 pt. lead!!??? You deserve to lose for that reason alone! (Although the other team might not deserve to win.)