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[LDUB]

Originally Posted by BBall_Junkie

You are kidding right? You can't get the play call ruling right but you are going to get the sideline warning on this? Seems like a recipe for disaster imo.

I don't do football, but I know that if I kick a call or we as a crew miss a rule on the basketball floor and the coach comes to the end of the bench to chew on me/us I will give him *some* latitude and I sure as heck aint gonna hit with a "coaches box" warning or tech unless he goes bananas and shows us up... different story and one I have to address.

There is a difference between being 3 feet out of the box in basketball and coming out to the middle of the field on the goal line in football. Also, a sideline warning has no penalty for the first one. Coming out to the middle of the field isn't acceptable.

Your whole thing about maybe getting the call wrong and allowing someone latitude doesn't even apply to this situation as there were coaches from both teams all the way out there while the officials were discussing things before a call had even been made.

And yes, it should be a USC foul if a coach is out there arguing. In basketball if you want to give the coach latitude that is fine. He is in the box and you let him say a few bad things, or maybe he is out of the box but you let it go. But leaving the box by 30 feet (I think that distance in BB is equitable to how far away these guys were from the team area in the FB game) and arguing...I don't see how that is not a technical foul.

[The Cynic]

We had an interesting game this week. We were down 17 points with 30 seconds left to go. I did what Ldub said. I used all 3 timeouts and ran our two minute offense. We still lost. I will try again next week.

[BBall_Junkie]

Originally Posted by LDUB

There is a difference between being 3 feet out of the box in basketball and coming out to the middle of the field on the goal line in football. Also, a sideline warning has no penalty for the first one. Coming out to the middle of the field isn't acceptable.

Your whole thing about maybe getting the call wrong and allowing someone latitude doesn't even apply to this situation as there were coaches from both teams all the way out there while the officials were discussing things before a call had even been made.

And yes, it should be a USC foul if a coach is out there arguing. In basketball if you want to give the coach latitude that is fine. He is in the box and you let him say a few bad things, or maybe he is out of the box but you let it go. But leaving the box by 30 feet (I think that distance in BB is equitable to how far away these guys were from the team area in the FB game) and arguing...I don't see how that is not a technical foul.

If you want to get the small stuff while screwing up the big stuff have at it and good luck. You seem to think that is what needs to be picked up here so I will not try to convince you otherwise.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BBall_Junkie

If you want to get the small stuff while screwing up the big stuff have at it and good luck. You seem to think that is what needs to be picked up here so I will not try to convince you otherwise.

Let's say there's a blarge on a play with 3 seconds left in the game, tie score. Both coaches run out to the free throw line to argue.

No technicals?

Hey, don't sweat the small stuff.

[BBall_Junkie]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Let's say there's a blarge on a play with 3 seconds left in the game, tie score. Both coaches run out to the free throw line to argue.

No technicals?

Hey, don't sweat the small stuff.

I did not say don't take care of the situation... my crew would get them back to the sidelines and prob no technical... But these situations are not the same because the coaches are always within about 45 feet of the action they can see what is traspiring between the officials where as in football you have no idea what is going on if you are over 25 yards from what is going on... Also, in basketball we rarely have long discussions on plays... if there is a blarge and both officials signal by rule its a double foul and we move on. In this sitch the crew is bumbling around for an inordinate amount of time and no one knows what is going on...remember the game outcome hinges on what they decide...lets worry about that vs a warning... apples and oranges... but like I said if you guys wanna dig for boogers have at it...

The coaches in this play are standing down there trying to find out what the call is going to be while the crew has there thumb in their butt... lets concentrate on getting the stuff that really matters before we worry about a sideline warning...

[The Cynic]

Originally Posted by BBall_Junkie

but like I said if you guys wanna dig for boogers have at it...

You summed up in one eloquent (eyes of the beholder) phrase what I was trying to do in paragraphs... great lesson in brevity, to be sure.

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Let's say there's a blarge on a play with 3 seconds left in the game, tie score. Both coaches run out to the free throw line to argue.

No technicals?

Hey, don't sweat the small stuff.

Originally Posted by BBall_Junkie

I did not say don't take care of the situation... my crew would get them back to the sidelines and prob no technical...

I didn't even read the rest of your post. How is that not a T? Both coaches run on the floor and no fouls? That is crazy. The guy on the far bench isn't moving to the division line out of bounds, he is running to the free throw line further from his bench.

I think the definition of not taking care of the situation is allowing the coach of the team occupying the bench away from the action to run out to the opposite free throw line to argue a call.

[BBall_Junkie]

Like I said, this is not likely to happen, but if you butcher a game deciding call so bad that you are all standing around and no one knows what is going on, the last thing I am going to worry about is that the coaches are out trying to figure out what in hell we are finally going to decide... we are going to have to agree to disagree but I am still baffled that you think this is the important take away from this thread.