Iowa-Texas Penalty

[Theisey]

Lets discuss another aspect of the picture BoBo posted.

It involves the slot receiver (second receiver in from the right). Knowing your NCAA definitions to the tee, would you say from this picture that he is a lineman or is he a back?

[TXMike]

Hard to tell for sure from the angle but seems his head is not breaking snapper's butt so he is not a lineman. His head may be breaking 87's butt which would prevent him from being a back and thus causing him to be a mugwump. That being said, I hope most wings would not be that technical here and would judge him to be a back.

[Theisey]

Exactly my thinking, this would be an example of a ticky-tack foul call when an official is just looking to toss a flag.

By the book, his positioning is "suspect" if I may borrow a phrase from Dave Parry's video's

[Texas Aggie]

Oh, for a second there I thought it was the slot right receiver who was being questioned. That guy is clearly off. Now, I see the supposed tight end. In the pic, it isn't clear where his head is. If his head goes down any, he's clearly broken the waist of the snapper and is on the line. If he stays upright, its unclear for sure. Either way, I have him on the line.

[LDUB]

I searched for a video of the play on You Tube, I couldn't find it but I did find this video. It shows how the officials cost Iowa their bowl game last year. I know it is off topic, but it is pretty amusing watching the replays and listening to the TV announcers.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=N7vRYakQgkI

[BktBallRef]

Sometimes, several close calls can go against a team in a single game. It happens, doesn;t mean anyone screwed up or cheated as fans suggest.

But somebody definitely screwed up the facemask foul. I guess whoever threw the flag got his numbers confused but it was definitely a foul by the UF player.

[BoBo]

http://mb25.scout.com/fiowafansfrm2....ID=25977.topic

here is the link to the iowa message board if you can go there and have at it i am done trying to be reasonable to these idiots.

[bisonlj]

Originally Posted by BoBo

http://mb25.scout.com/fiowafansfrm2....ID=25977.topic

here is the link to the iowa message board if you can go there and have at it i am done trying to be reasonable to these idiots.

Wow...most people are pretty sane on that forum but there are a few that just don't get it. To say it was ticky-tack and never gets called shows their lack of knowledge of the rules. That is one of the easiest calls and gets called every time.

I'll agree if someone is close I'll give him the benefit of the doubt but have a talk with him. He wasn't even close. These players are so well coached that formation just doesn't happen often accidentally. It does happen intentionally but that "covered" player usually stays in to block or it's a running play.

[Theisey]

You have a lot of guts to take on fans on a fan board BoBo
That's the last kind of place I'd go even to read! Let'm rant all they want.

[BoBo]

Living here in Iowa and being a Sooner fan (tough one last nite) I have no problems defending the men in stripes. In fact a couple of local radio guys call me quite frequently during the season when rulings come up. They both texted seconds after the play.

Boys if it is written in black and white in the rulebook it is pretty hard to argue against it.

Never have had a love for the Hawkeyes or the Cyclones.

Just trying to educate them a little.

[MJT]

I am from IA, and a fan, but some of those guys on the fan boards are fricken morons!!! It was the right call by the officials, but some fans are like parents of players I've coached and see things thru glasses that seem to change the things their sons/daughters do and make them 10 times better than they really are.