Coaches box

[Snake~eyes]

Originally Posted by parepat

Leave the poor kid alone. If he had any brains he wouldn't be playing football in the first place.

I'm all for sideline control, but I'm not as zeolous as some of you guys. I don't really care how many are in the box so long as they're not causing any problems. I kind of feel like I have bigger fish to fry. No?

You are the reason why officials can't control the team box the next friday. It's because not everyone wants to enforce the rule how it should be done. For me, it would be great to have ZERO coaches in the box (like NCAA) because I love the room to work (LJ and even HL). I hate running into coaches and not being able to back out when coaches are in the box. It is for the saftey of myself and the players of both teams.

[Bob M.]

Originally Posted by Snake~eyes

You are the reason why officials can't control the team box the next friday. It's because not everyone wants to enforce the rule how it should be done. For me, it would be great to have ZERO coaches in the box (like NCAA) because I love the room to work (LJ and even HL). I hate running into coaches and not being able to back out when coaches are in the box. It is for the saftey of myself and the players of both teams.

REPLY I agree with you that the Fed should go back to their old coaches-in-the-team-box rule like the NCAA. But...you can't easily put the genie back into the bottle.

[parepat]

Originally Posted by Snake~eyes

You are the reason why officials can't control the team box the next friday. It's because not everyone wants to enforce the rule how it should be done. For me, it would be great to have ZERO coaches in the box (like NCAA) because I love the room to work (LJ and even HL). I hate running into coaches and not being able to back out when coaches are in the box. It is for the saftey of myself and the players of both teams.

Maybe. Or, maybe you are the reason that coaches think that we are militant jerks who worry about the minutia to the exclusion of what's really important. I have never one time had a problem with controlling my sideline. However, my point was that I don't spend a bunch of time trying to determine who should or shouldn't be in the box while the game is going on.

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by parepat

Maybe. Or, maybe you are the reason that coaches think that we are militant jerks who worry about the minutia to the exclusion of what's really important. I have never one time had a problem with controlling my sideline. However, my point was that I don't spend a bunch of time trying to determine who should or shouldn't be in the box while the game is going on.

Can you list for me, then, which rules that our governing bodies have put into place that you feel it's too militant to enforce? Thanks.

[parepat]

Originally Posted by mcrowder

Can you list for me, then, which rules that our governing bodies have put into place that you feel it's too militant to enforce? Thanks.

I did not say any rule was too "militant". WHat I said was that certain officials are militant about the enforcement of some rules.

And, I doubt you call the backside hold thirty yards behind the play in an eighth grade game. Instead, I'd bet that you use your judgment, hold the flag and use the opportunity to talk to the player. Likewise, I use my judgment in controlling my sideline.

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by parepat

I did not say any rule was too "militant". WHat I said was that certain officials are militant about the enforcement of some rules.

And, I doubt you call the backside hold thirty yards behind the play in an eighth grade game. Instead, I'd bet that you use your judgment, hold the flag and use the opportunity to talk to the player. Likewise, I use my judgment in controlling my sideline.

OK, fair point. Although on your analagous point, I belive 99.9% of the officials out there would not call a backside hold 30 yards from the play. However, on keeping the sidelines clear, it seems to me that this rule is important (and not militant) to enforce, and that enforcement is made more difficult by the apathy of some linesmen. I believe it's a safety issue (for me, the unsuspecting coach, and potentially for players, both playing and not playing), and is important to enforce. There are polite ways and non-polite ways to handle it, but it must be handled, not ignored. Once you let the line of coaches creep up, the kiddos creep into the coaches box. And once a couple creep in, more and more do. If you don't enforce this rule, you are bound to have problems (or if you play so far into the field that YOU don't have problems, your successor will).

[parepat]

I agree. Apathy on the part of the official will eventually create a problem whether it be out on the field or on the sidelines.