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fonzzy07 Sun Sep 24, 2006 08:07pm

Coaches box
 
Had an issue yesterday. Linejudge on are side decides from the very begging to enforce the coaches box rule. Fine we as players ablige and stay behind the line. He however goes off on the coaching staff for standing off the field of play but infront of the line. One time the coach called me over as I was going to sub in and all I heard during the play was player back up. Finnaly i guess he had enough but a few plays later the ref gave are headcoach a sideline warning for being a few inches on the field 15 yards downfield, while the ball was being set, o yead did i mention are coach was signalling in a play. If this is how it is suppose to be enforced well then I don't agree with it but I respect it. my question is how hard should this be enforced and do u think the ref went to far. Thanks

Snake~eyes Sun Sep 24, 2006 08:30pm

Well let's see, you are asking if coaches are allowed to be on the field? The answer is no, the fact that they are signalling in a play is irrelevant.

And players may not be in the coaches box, only 3 coaches may be in the coaches box.

BktBallRef Sun Sep 24, 2006 08:38pm

Only three coaches are allowed in the coaching box. All others should be in the team box. No coaches should be on the field.

ljudge Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:22am

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Originally Posted by fonzzy07
Finnaly i guess he had enough but a few plays later the ref gave are headcoach a sideline warning for being a few inches on the field 15 yards downfield, while the ball was being set, o yead did i mention are coach was signalling in a play.

Fonzzy07, The question you need ask yourself....does a "few INCHES" make THAT much of a difference? I mean, without encroaching on those few inches on the field do you really think the players wouldn't be able to see the signals?

It's been rumored that officiating crews who allowed coaches onto the field (even slightly) without flagging it had lost opportunities for working the state playoff tournament. We heard there were "spotters" from the state athletic association who were often sent to stadiums without us knowing about it and "dinging" the officials for allowing coaches onto the fields.

bluezebra Mon Sep 25, 2006 01:57pm

Linejudge on are side decides from the very begging to enforce the coaches box rule.

The LJ was 'begging' the coaches to abide by the rules?

Bob

Bob M. Mon Sep 25, 2006 02:57pm

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Originally Posted by bluezebra
Linejudge on are side decides from the very begging to enforce the coaches box rule.

The LJ was 'begging' the coaches to abide by the rules?

Bob

REPLY I think he meant "from the very beggining."

grantsrc Mon Sep 25, 2006 05:49pm

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Originally Posted by Bob M.
REPLY I think he meant "from the very beggining."

Also, each time you see "are" substitute "our". Sorry the english teacher in me.

The Roamin' Umpire Mon Sep 25, 2006 08:17pm

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Originally Posted by Bob M.
REPLY I think he meant "from the very beggining."

And I think you meant "beginning"... :p

parepat Mon Sep 25, 2006 09:50pm

Leave the poor kid alone. If he had any brains he wouldn't be playing football in the first place.

I'm all for sideline control, but I'm not as zeolous as some of you guys. I don't really care how many are in the box so long as they're not causing any problems. I kind of feel like I have bigger fish to fry. No?

Snake~eyes Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:52pm

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Originally Posted by parepat
Leave the poor kid alone. If he had any brains he wouldn't be playing football in the first place.

I'm all for sideline control, but I'm not as zeolous as some of you guys. I don't really care how many are in the box so long as they're not causing any problems. I kind of feel like I have bigger fish to fry. No?

You are the reason why officials can't control the team box the next friday. It's because not everyone wants to enforce the rule how it should be done. For me, it would be great to have ZERO coaches in the box (like NCAA) because I love the room to work (LJ and even HL). I hate running into coaches and not being able to back out when coaches are in the box. It is for the saftey of myself and the players of both teams.

Bob M. Tue Sep 26, 2006 09:11am

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Originally Posted by The Roamin' Umpire
And I think you meant "beginning"... :p

REPLY: At my age, even the fingers move quicker than the brain!

Bob M. Tue Sep 26, 2006 09:12am

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Originally Posted by Snake~eyes
You are the reason why officials can't control the team box the next friday. It's because not everyone wants to enforce the rule how it should be done. For me, it would be great to have ZERO coaches in the box (like NCAA) because I love the room to work (LJ and even HL). I hate running into coaches and not being able to back out when coaches are in the box. It is for the saftey of myself and the players of both teams.

REPLY I agree with you that the Fed should go back to their old coaches-in-the-team-box rule like the NCAA. But...you can't easily put the genie back into the bottle.

Forksref Tue Sep 26, 2006 12:32pm

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Originally Posted by The Roamin' Umpire
And I think you meant "beginning"... :p


In baseball it is the Big Inning.

I've never been begged to throw a flag. For me the "are" and "our" issue is not the English teacher in me, it's the trying to understand English issue. ;)

parepat Tue Sep 26, 2006 01:35pm

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Originally Posted by Snake~eyes
You are the reason why officials can't control the team box the next friday. It's because not everyone wants to enforce the rule how it should be done. For me, it would be great to have ZERO coaches in the box (like NCAA) because I love the room to work (LJ and even HL). I hate running into coaches and not being able to back out when coaches are in the box. It is for the saftey of myself and the players of both teams.

Maybe. Or, maybe you are the reason that coaches think that we are militant jerks who worry about the minutia to the exclusion of what's really important. I have never one time had a problem with controlling my sideline. However, my point was that I don't spend a bunch of time trying to determine who should or shouldn't be in the box while the game is going on.

mcrowder Tue Sep 26, 2006 01:58pm

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Originally Posted by parepat
Leave the poor kid alone. If he had any brains he wouldn't be playing football in the first place.

I'm all for sideline control, but I'm not as zeolous as some of you guys. I don't really care how many are in the box so long as they're not causing any problems. I kind of feel like I have bigger fish to fry. No?

Thanks for making life harder for the rest of us. So it's YOU they are referring to when they say, "But they didn't make us do it LAST week!". The bane of all officials.


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