NCAA assistant coaches vs. HS assistant coaches

[Indy_Ref]

Have any of you ever noticed the seemingly wide disparity between how NCAA assistant coaches conduct themselves during games vs. how HS assistant coaches conduct themselves during games?

One of my partners and I often talk about this. We often cite how the NCAA assistants almost NEVER stand up or think they are a part of the on-court/live-ball coaching. Their primary duties seem to be conducting much of the practices, talking to the players after they get substituted during games, and offering advice to the head coach during TO's. In HS, the assistants (at least in Indiana) seem to think they are part of the actual on-court coaching process...often getting up and yelling at the players...trying to direct them...and calling the plays. And therefore, feel as though they have the "right" to yell at the officials, too. This year's 4A champions often have 5 coaches up at a time during the game!!! If you ask the head coach to get them to sit, we often receive the "rolling-of-the-eyes" look!

Other than a standard, "Head coach, I'm happy to listen to you, but please take care of your bench"-type of replies, what else do you fellow officials do in trying to deal with this situation?

[Edited by Indy_Ref on Apr 16th, 2004 at 01:05 PM]

[JRutledge]

I have seen and have worked NCAA games where the assistants stand up from time to time. Usually at the NCAA level (or any college), coaching is a profession and they understand their role much better than I think many HS coaches do. Let us face it, HS coaches are teachers made to coach. They are former players volunteering their time. Or they are just someone that thinks they understand the game. The reason they are most hositle to "instruction" about their behavior. At the NCAA level, the officials do not tolerate their behavior and the coaches realize that and do not allow assistants to do much, especially if pointed out to them. But then again, you do not see the same behavior or see the same comments come from college coaches as you do from HS coaches. That is just the way it is.

Peace

[mick]

Originally posted by Indy_Ref
Have any of you ever noticed the seemingly wide disparity between how NCAA assistant coaches conduct themselves during games vs. how HS assistant coaches conduct themselves during games?

Indy,
Yes, that is apparent.

Have you ever noticed how children act incorrectly until they are told the correct way to act?

So it is with some assistant coaches that are allowed to act out until they are not.
mick

[Mark Dexter]

I see NCAA assistants standing, talking with players, and calling plays all the time.

Generally, however, they're controlled about it - only one up at a time (rather than all 20 at some high schools) - and they don't go over the line with the refs.

[Hawks Coach]

A lot of your NCAA head coaches are pretty strong personalities, and clearly are the head guy. I think that factors in as well.

And if you were on UMD's sideline, would you stand yup and take the chance that Gary might knock you over during one of his spin-around-and-yell rants. Not me.

[PGCougar]

Originally posted by Hawks Coach
A lot of your NCAA head coaches are pretty strong personalities, and clearly are the head guy. I think that factors in as well.

And if you were on UMD's sideline, would you stand yup and take the chance that Gary might knock you over during one of his spin-around-and-yell rants. Not me.

Back when the Terps played in Cole Field House, my partner had season tickets a few rows back from the Maryland bench. I was at many a game in those seats.

Yikes! Let's just say those seats were not in the Family Section.

[Hawks Coach]

Originally posted by PGCougar

Back when the Terps played in Cole Field House, my partner had season tickets a few rows back from the Maryland bench. I was at many a game in those seats.

Yikes! Let's just say those seats were not in the Family Section.

Yeah - probably somewhere between R and NC-17

[TigerBball]

I don't think you can generalize that all high school staffs act this way, even in Indiana, which is where I coach. Our varsity coach has clearly defined roles for his asst. coaches, you don't see them standing up and getting on the refs.

Now if you would go to our neighboring school, Tippe Valley, you would see a situation where the head coach just wants his son to coach, even though not a teacher (a requirement in IN), so his son is an asst, but does all the coaching, until they decide to start howling, then both get up.

Our fans get on them terrible "hey, which one of you guys is the coach" "how many coaches do they get" "Hey, looks like the program is wrong, lists ________ as the head coach"