HS Football Penalty in OT

[CT1]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

Of course in playoffs themselves you need to break ties. However, in the finals you don't!

You gotta be kidding me. Why in the wide world of sports would you NOT want to determine a champion?

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by CT1

You gotta be kidding me. Why in the wide world of sports would you NOT want to determine a champion?

Who do they play if they advance from the finals? What game are they knocked out of if they lose in the finals?

When you get right down to it, it's a game like any other. There's as much reason to determine a winner or leave it tied as in any other game. Tying for the title is the same as tying for anything else. It's only in knockouts that you must determine who advances and who gets knocked out.

[CT1]

Thats the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Determining a champion is the whole reason for having a playoff tournament in the first place.

[Texas Aggie]

Texas used to break ties by "penetrations." If teams ended up tied, they'd go to who broke the 20 the most times (only once per possession). If that was tied, they went to first downs. I wasn't officiating then, but I watched several big games end in ties. My home town team "lost" 2 games one year on penetrations -- one in district and the other in the playoffs. The tie in district didn't hurt them as the other team lost. The playoff "loss" was to the eventual state runner up, who did lose to a team that lost earlier that year. My team was the only undefeated team in state but had a 2nd round playoff "loss" to show for it.

While in theory, it made some sense (essentially moved the goal line back 20 yards). However, trust me: you wanted no part of that rule. Teams didn't play to cross the 20, they played to score. They found out mid-way through the 4th that they MIGHT have to play to cross the 20. They found out a few minutes later that they weren't advancing to the playoffs or in the playoffs due to a rule that was impossible to prepare for or defend against because it was indeterminable. The worst OT rule is better than a) a tie game and b) the old penetrations rule.

[HLin NC]

I have read a few newspaper accounts of "penetrations" being used in our area for certain games in the late 50's, early 60's but there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason as to when it was used.

My alma mater lost a tie playoff game to our county rival in '74 based on total yardage. The first NFHS OT procedure game played here was in '76.

[paulsonj72]

Originally Posted by HLin NC

I have read a few newspaper accounts of "penetrations" being used in our area for certain games in the late 50's, early 60's but there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason as to when it was used.

My alma mater lost a tie playoff game to our county rival in '74 based on total yardage. The first NFHS OT procedure game played here was in '76.

1973 for the regular season in Minnesota. It was in place for our first year of football playoffs in 1972 but none of the 15 games(3 games in each of five classes) went to OT. NO OT in the regular season in 1972 in Minnesoata