New NFHS Mechanics?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by ODog

I can't recall seeing anyone doing the "run the endline" signal as drawn up/illustrated.

Where have you seen the new NFHS "run the endline" signal "drawn up/illustrated"?

Isn't Massachusetts an IAABO state, with some NCAA adaptations?

Are you sure that you're not talking about an IAABO, or NCAA (definitely not my forte), signal illustration?

[ODog]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Where have you seen the new NFHS "run the endline" signal "drawn up/illustrated"?

See your own post above the one I'm quoting here.

[BillyMac]

... New York, New Jersey, New Mexico (I know, it's an old joke, but it's a classic, and it's still funny).

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Where have you seen the new NFHS "run the endline" signal "drawn up/illustrated"?

Originally Posted by ODog

See your own post above ...

My illustration was an IAABO illustration (note the little patch), not a NFHS illustration, and (currently using IAABO mechanics, and signals, rather than NFHS mechanics, and signals) I had no idea that the NFHS already had a "run the endline" signal (based on the "new" 15-16 NFHS signal description).

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

NFHS signals are a POE.

The only "change" is that the universal signal that everyone used indicating a thrower can run the endline is now official.

No, two handed reporting is not NFHS mechanic.

There is no way to know what will be expected in 2015-16 until the manual comes out. When I went to a camp 2 years ago, one of the clinicians had inside knowledge of the new expected long switch in the NFHS book, but the book itself didn't get in my hands until fall. It was not discussed in the changes to rules/signals that came out earlier in the year. And then it changed again.

That said, I'd be surprised if the NFHS endorsed 2-handed reporting, but I'd switch to it day one if they did.

[Sharpshooternes]

Our assigner of officials and the guy in charge has said we will be using two hand mechanics this year. So excited.

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Our assigner of officials and the guy in charge has said we will be using two hand mechanics this year. So excited.

Did they say if this was a national change or just unique to your area? I'm praying for the former.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by SC Official

Did they say if this was a national change or just unique to your area? I'm praying for the former.

Me too. With a little practice it's ridiculously easy to master. Just set up your right hand with the tens digit as you move toward the table. If need be, score the basket with your other hand and then *poof* up go the fingers.

I have heard the real NFHS roadblock has been over concern that high school table personnel cannot process a two-hand signal, especially if the official is still walking toward the table while reporting. I think that's a weak position and pretty demeaning to table personnel. All of this, "stop, be rigid, put up one hand, stick your hand straight out" stuff makes me feel like a robot and slows down game flow. I've largely abandoned it and don't really care if some purist evaluator downgrades me for it.

If I can tell the table is inexperienced, sure I'll slow things down for them. But I shouldn't have to assume that they're dense and slow because usually quite the opposite is true.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by SC Official

Did they say if this was a national change or just unique to your area? I'm praying for the former.

I don't think they mentioned either way, just that we should use two hand mechanics. Sorry.

[Stat-Man]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

The only "change" is that the universal signal that everyone used indicating a thrower can run the endline is now official.

Last night, I saw the new NFHS signal chart posted here [PDF]. I didn't see a new signal for running the end line, but they did change signal #28. What used to be the pointing at the floor for a free throw or designated spot violation (in the 2014-15 rule book) is a now a new signal for "Move along end line on a throw in" violation(?).

Did the signal for running the end line get put in the wrong section?

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by Stat-Man

Last night, I saw the new NFHS signal chart posted here [PDF]. I didn't see a new signal for running the end line, but they did change signal #28. What used to be the pointing at the floor for a free throw or designated spot violation (in the 2014-15 rule book) is a now a new signal for "Move along end line on a throw in" violation(?).

Did the signal for running the end line get put in the wrong section?

28 is the new signal. Spot throw is 7

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by OKREF

28 is the new signal. Spot throw is 7

And 28 should be in the information section.

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[OKREF]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

And 28 should be in the information section.

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yes

[constable]

Can someone please explain why IAABO has their own set of mechanics? I've never been able to wrap my head around it.

[Rich]

I wouldn't be surprised to see our mechanics move in the direction of NCAAW / NBA. Personally I don't care, although the stop and report with one hand thing -- I'd gladly abandon that.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by Rich

I wouldn't be surprised to see our mechanics move in the direction of NCAAW / NBA. Personally I don't care, although the stop and report with one hand thing -- I'd gladly abandon that.

Frankly the NCAAM "stop" mechanic is really only necessary because they then have to turn around and go opposite. Which is a silly and time-wasting concept in and of itself just meant to avoid confrontations with coaches (and said avoidance only makes frustration fester, at which point you have to pull a Gene Steretore and entertain the coach every time you're the tableside C and the ball is live, etc., etc.....but I digress).

My point? Stopping to report is silly and useless.