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It's good procedure if you're ejecting them both.
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This occurred with under a minute left in a contested game. All well and good if it's clear, but if it's loud and difficult to hear and there was play after the ball was released you may need to offer some explanation. FWIW, I would have done exactly as you described, but I'm assuming the OP did not in light of the question.
As to your other point, when coaches are surveyed as to what they most want from officials, consistency and communication are often the top two items on the list. It never hurts to have good communication, particularly in game-ending situations. |
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Anyway, because the timer was having trouble, then our R comes to the table and asks what's up. I said, "the clock was at 59.8 and should not have started, so we're putting that time back on." He said, "aw no, no," and gives me a look that could kill. But just at that moment the timer got the correct time up and we went to put the ball back in play. After the game, R says to me (U2) many things, but the jist was that this was a summer league game, and I was the only one who noticed, and since both coaches didn't notice, either, I should have just left it alone. This really irked me and I even told him that I respectfully disagreed; it goes against everything I've been taught about clock management as an official. And to just another ref's point, no it had not been established in advance that the atmosphere was very casual and that putting time back on the clock would be frowned upon. Quite the contrary, this was a 3-p game during the spring, a perfect opportunity to work on skills before we all start going to camps. We even talked about that in our pre-game. So to catch a clock error, attempt to fix it, and then be scolded for that by the crew chief was ludicrous and hypocritical. This guy, an AAU finals official, is no longer on my Christmas card list. To be fair, the R did make a valid point. If I was going to do something with the clock, I should have brought the crew together first to talk about it before going to the table. He was right; I should have done that. That said, I think I now know what he would have decided to [not] do, and that would have left me even more unsatisfied than I already am. I am gratified by the fact that almost everyone who commented saw it my way, which I firmly believe is the correct way. Thanks for all of the input. |
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This is a very basic timing mistake and a simple correction. You can tell the crew and the coaches what you have after the timer fixes it. I have no problem with you going straight to the table. There is no reason to bring the crew together when you already have definite knowledge and have the situation well under control. |
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I had situation this season with a last second shot and timeout by the other team immediately after. I looked at the clock after the shot went in and it said something like 1.8 seconds when I granted the timeout. By the time the clock operator stopped the clock it was .5. I knew what it was, but should have met with my partners first before going to the table to fix the clock. Two reasons for doing this: it shows everyone the crew getting together to get it right, and shows respect to my partners by checking with them. |
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Well cross-country, you had me fooled. Now that I look back on it, my inadvertent whistle suggestion really had no business here
But yes- I've been through these situations before. Its usually me trying to be professional and following things by the book as a very young official. Once I was trying to ask the table if they switched the possession arrow only to have my R run over with a staccato whistle telling me to relax and not worry about it. Yeah- I've had more than a few of my crew chiefs embarrass me. But,I have a MAYB game on Saturday. That'll give me a chance to try and work on my "relaxed official" alias. |
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How about you just blow the whistle for the timeout and loudly call out to partners "Clock needs to be at 1.8. I'll take care of it." Then go report timeout and fix the clock. You don't need permission to fix things or have an interaction with the table. Frankly, if you came to me for "permission" to handle something at the table, I would look at you like you had grown a third eye on your forehead. Go take care of it...if I can't figure out what is going on, shame on me. |
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There's a difference, imo, between the situation that starts with a stopped clock (as in the OP), and one with a running like (your situation).
Maybe a partner has a better / different idea of what the clock should be (but since you granted the TO, that's not too likely -- it's more so on an OOB or made basket in the last minute situation). And, since you should have told the coaches what you were going to do so they could plan accordingly in the TO, your partners should have been aware. Be an R even if you're not the R. |
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So if I am the U2 and am right there by the table and know the clock should be reset to 1.8, AND I have the audacity to turn to the table and take care of the issue, then what? Are you going to run over there and say "No, I am the R and I get to fix this. Reset the clock to 1.8!" and then run back to your position???
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Anytime the clock needs to be changed, I'm talking to my partner first, to make sure that we're both on the same page; then both coaches, they deserve an explanation; and then the table crew, who will adjust the clock.
And, it's not to keep from hurting anybody's feelings, or from stepping on anybody's toes, it's because it's the right way to do it. From my pregame: "If anything weird happens, let's get together, and talk about it".
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