Louisville/NC State travel on 3pt play (Video)

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Rich

It's judgment, though. What's a gather to one isn't quite a gather to another. Benefit of the doubt goes to the player with the ball, IMO.

I like the game being called like this. Always have. Not bothered that reality doesn't meet the letter of the written rule, either.

I'm sure I had an offensive player in the lane for more than 3 seconds more than 4 times this season, but I'm not bothered that I "missed" those violations, either.

Originally Posted by APG

I would have the gather in the air as well

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Most plays like this I have a gather in the air.

Peace

While I too might very well have it in the air in real time, that doesn't change the fact that the video shows that he really had it held in two hands before he jumped. We can dance around it all day but the video doesn't lie.

[ballgame99]

I had a travel live and still do, but my opinion would probably be different if I'm that L, on the run, and from that angle.

[JugglingReferee]

I have a travel due to the dribble ending while the left foot is still on the floor. I will admit that it's close, though. I'd love to see it called a travel.

[HokiePaul]

I can see a travel call; or a foul call in the act of shooting (as was called by the officials), but I can't see calling both on this play.

I think the travel, if it happened, occured before the contact on the arm and the contact on the arm would be ignored.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

I had a travel live and still do, but my opinion would probably be different if I'm that L, on the run, and from that angle.

I believe that the C has to get this travel.

Gather is in the air.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Gather is in the air.

But he's holding the ball while still on the floor....which is what the travel rules are based on.

It is fine if we want to change the travel rules to some yet to be defined new status of the ball or even admit we're already calling it by a standard not in the rules but lets not pretend this isn't traveling by the rules because it is.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

But he's holding the ball while still on the floor....which is what the travel rules are based on.

It is fine if we want to change the travel rules to some yet to be defined new status of the ball or even admit we're already calling it by a standard not in the rules but lets not pretend this isn't traveling by the rules because it is.

Touching both hands doesn't immediately equate to "holding." At least not how I see it, anyway.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Rich

Touching both hands doesn't immediately equate to "holding." At least not how I see it, anyway.

When it is between two hands and doesn't come out, that is holding the ball. Not sure what else it could be. Doesn't seem like the position of the ball has any relevance, by rule, as it seems some are trying to imply.

Also, does that player have player control? if there were an offensive foul by that player at that moment, would it be a player control foul? If someone requested a timeout at that moment, would you grant the timeout?