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Old Mon Mar 30, 2015, 08:52am
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I had a travel live and still do, but my opinion would probably be different if I'm that L, on the run, and from that angle.
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Old Mon Mar 30, 2015, 12:02pm
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I have a travel due to the dribble ending while the left foot is still on the floor. I will admit that it's close, though. I'd love to see it called a travel.
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Old Mon Mar 30, 2015, 02:13pm
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I can see a travel call; or a foul call in the act of shooting (as was called by the officials), but I can't see calling both on this play.

I think the travel, if it happened, occured before the contact on the arm and the contact on the arm would be ignored.
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Old Mon Mar 30, 2015, 02:38pm
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I had a travel live and still do, but my opinion would probably be different if I'm that L, on the run, and from that angle.
I believe that the C has to get this travel.
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Old Wed Apr 01, 2015, 08:55am
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Gather is in the air.
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Old Wed Apr 01, 2015, 10:25am
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Gather is in the air.
But he's holding the ball while still on the floor....which is what the travel rules are based on.

It is fine if we want to change the travel rules to some yet to be defined new status of the ball or even admit we're already calling it by a standard not in the rules but lets not pretend this isn't traveling by the rules because it is.
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Old Wed Apr 01, 2015, 10:38am
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But he's holding the ball while still on the floor....which is what the travel rules are based on.

It is fine if we want to change the travel rules to some yet to be defined new status of the ball or even admit we're already calling it by a standard not in the rules but lets not pretend this isn't traveling by the rules because it is.
Touching both hands doesn't immediately equate to "holding." At least not how I see it, anyway.
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Old Wed Apr 01, 2015, 10:43am
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Touching both hands doesn't immediately equate to "holding." At least not how I see it, anyway.
When it is between two hands and doesn't come out, that is holding the ball. Not sure what else it could be. Doesn't seem like the position of the ball has any relevance, by rule, as it seems some are trying to imply.

Also, does that player have player control? if there were an offensive foul by that player at that moment, would it be a player control foul? If someone requested a timeout at that moment, would you grant the timeout?
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Old Wed Apr 01, 2015, 12:35pm
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Also, does that player have player control? if there were an offensive foul by that player at that moment, would it be a player control foul? If someone requested a timeout at that moment, would you grant the timeout?
What does PC have to do with this? A player dribbling a basketball has PC without holding the ball. Are we pretending now that the process of gathering a dribble negates PC?
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