Cincinnati vs Kentucky Contact Dead Ball Technical Foul (Video)

[BryanV21]

Why did Ellis (Cin) get away with all that instigating? What Harrison (Ken) did isn't right, but how can the officials ignore the fact that Ellis was the root of the problem (at least here, as I don't know what happened before this sequence)?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

Why did Ellis (Cin) get away with all that instigating? What Harrison (Ken) did isn't right, but how can the officials ignore the fact that Ellis was the root of the problem (at least here, as I don't know what happened before this sequence)?

Officials should have had a quick trigger on Ellis, IMO. He had just been tossed from the previous game for a FF2.

[rockyroad]

This is a great example of how "talking" to the players doesn't always work. We (including myself here) think we can talk to players and get things settled down in these types of situations. Most of the time that works great...but when dealing with known knuckleheads, maybe talking isn't the best way to handle things. If Ellis gets a DB Contact T in the first play, the second probably never happens.

[crosscountry55]

Ellis is some of the most problematic baggage I've seen a coach have to deal with in a long time. To be humbled by the FF2 he had 2 days before and then come back as if nothing had happened....and act with the same shenanigans? Holy smokes.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

Ellis is some of the most problematic baggage I've seen a coach have to deal with in a long time. To be humbled by the FF2 he had 2 days before and then come back as if nothing had happened....and act with the same shenanigans? Holy smokes.

Tells me he may not have really been as "humbled" as he tried to appear.

[mutantducky]

shades of Dennis Rodman come to mind.

[Nevadaref]

Following the first personal foul the Kentucky player took a swipe at the Cinci player. The Cinci player was no angel, but that action by the Kentucky player meets the definition of a Class A unsporting technical foul. I would penalize him right then. I don't see the actions of anything else in this clip rising to that level. I do not agree with the technical foul that was eventually assessed to the Kentucky player following the second personal foul. Ellis of Cinci actually moved to his right to pick off Harrison as he walks by and makes his shoulder bump look worse. I would tell those two to knock it off and keep an eye them for further issues.

Lastly, please compare the language in 10-3-1d with the text of the new 10-3-2i. Curious that one uses "and" and the other "or" when they are basically the same in the rest of the rule. Why the difference for players versus bench personnnel?

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

Why did Ellis (Cin) get away with all that instigating? What Harrison (Ken) did isn't right, but how can the officials ignore the fact that Ellis was the root of the problem (at least here, as I don't know what happened before this sequence)?

Agreed. The Cincy player was the troublemaker here and got away with a lot of instigating.