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Old Sun Jan 06, 2013, 08:19pm
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St. Johns v. Villanova: Dead Ball Contact Technical Foul

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Old Sun Jan 06, 2013, 08:21pm
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F1? Looks right to me.
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Old Sun Jan 06, 2013, 08:41pm
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F1? Looks right to me.
FF1 is for personal fouls only.

The ball was dead (after a made basket and not at the disposal of thrower-in) so the title of the thread correctly describes the offense.
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Old Sun Jan 06, 2013, 08:45pm
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FF1 is for personal fouls only.

The ball was dead (after a made basket and not at the disposal of thrower-in) so the title of the thread correctly describes the offense.
Of course you're right. This contact rises to the level of an F1 had the ball been live? Sounds right to me.
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Old Sun Jan 06, 2013, 08:51pm
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Of course you're right. This contact rises to the level of an F1 had the ball been live? Sounds right to me.
Live ball, yep, I have a FF1 or Intentional Foul.
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Old Sun Jan 06, 2013, 09:52pm
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Technical foul.
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Old Sun Jan 06, 2013, 10:15pm
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FF1 is for personal fouls only.

The ball was dead (after a made basket and not at the disposal of thrower-in) so the title of the thread correctly describes the offense.
Agree - good call by the old L.

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Old Mon Jan 07, 2013, 12:19am
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Nothing but a Technical Foul. I did not think that was even in question.

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Old Mon Jan 07, 2013, 12:30am
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Technical foul.
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Old Mon Jan 07, 2013, 09:36am
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Good job by the old L in getting that, even though it looks like he wasn't looking at the play when it happened.
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Old Mon Jan 07, 2013, 10:02am
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Thanks for posting.

I watched this play live and saw the crew discuss the play. Unfortunately the crew decided to inbound the ball at the endline closest to where the foul occurred (which the clip doesn't show). With a DBTF, the ball should've been put in play at the division line.
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Old Mon Jan 07, 2013, 10:11am
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Thanks for posting.

I watched this play live and saw the crew discuss the play. Unfortunately the crew decided to inbound the ball at the endline closest to where the foul occurred (which the clip doesn't show). With a DBTF, the ball should've been put in play at the division line.
You forgot the "C" for "Contact".
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Old Mon Jan 07, 2013, 11:16am
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Perfect example of a dead-ball (ball entered hoop but not yet at the disposal of the throw-in team) contact technical foul.

And other posters are correct that the ball should be put in play at the division line.
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Whack!

(And let him stay...)

But the next one is Whack! Get Out!!!
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