Providence - Dayton...Ed Cooley technical

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by hbk314

As someone who has no horse in this race, so to speak, the technical foul absolutely didn't need to be called. If the action had been directed at an official(or anyone other than his own team), I'd have no issue with it.

Some things are just not allowed no matter who the target is. Throwing chairs is one of them.

[hbk314]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Some things are just not allowed no matter who the target is. Throwing chairs is one of them.

If he'd actually thrown it, I'd likely agree. He knocked it over. Not an action that the other team should be getting free throws for.

Other than calling the official an idiot, the Deadspin article is correct.

[APG]

Originally Posted by hbk314

As someone who has no horse in this race, so to speak, the technical foul absolutely didn't need to be called. If the action had been directed at an official(or anyone other than his own team), I'd have no issue with it.

Independent of the play in question...are you sure you're qualified to determine whether or not a T should be handed out? You've said it yourself, you've not an official.

As to the play in question...overt actions such, such as throwing/hitting the chair opens one up to be assessed a technical foul. And for all we know, there may be words that accompanied this T...in guise of "just talking to his guys."

[hbk314]

Originally Posted by APG

Independent of the play in question...are you sure you're qualified to determine whether or not a T should be handed out? You've said it yourself, you've not an official.

As to the play in question...overt actions such, such as throwing/hitting the chair opens one up to be assessed a technical foul. And for all we know, there may be words that accompanied this T...in guise of "just talking to his guys."

I'm not a basketball official. I did officiate baseball until some health issues came up.

If there were a way to penalize the coach without rewarding the other team, I'd be all for it. I just don't think that this rises to the level of something the other team should benefit from.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by refinks

Horrible call, one of the worst so far. Cooley was mad at his team, and Ogelsby (sp?) had no business even paying attention to the huddle.

I'm of the opinion that NCAA officiating gets worse and worse every tournament. So far this tournament has been an absolute joke when it comes to officiating.

The f'ing huddle was in the free throw lane, how is he supposed ignore what's happening when the chair ends up practically at his feet?

You can't be serious.

[Pantherdreams]

Not a huge fan of this T.

I get that if the officials felt like it was directed at them or they legitmately felt like there was an unsporting act I can support that. I just wouldn't call one here.

I just don't feel like thats a chair throw. I also don't think that we are dealing with kids here. Everyone in the huddle is an adult that is choosing to be there. If you don't want/like or feel maligned but demonstrative displays of emotion but the man in charge you've had ample time to leave prior to tonight. Not saying that validates all behaviour but I'm not concerned with chair tipping hurting the feelings of the other adults involved.

Complicating factors for me:

- The Timeout is in the middle of the floor to start with. So if a water bottle gets kicked or a clip board slammed its going to be much nearer the officials regardless. If the timeouts are going to be allowed to be in the middle of the floor the fact that you are closer to the timeout shouldn't play into how close what is happening in the timeout is good to you.

- You are basically T'ing up alignment. If the Timeout has players or coaches standing behind him. As an official you don't know what is going on. In the games I do i would have never seen the chair as the physical spaces and player alignment would have had the chair stopped at at the feet of a wall of coaches/players before sliding. The fact that a chair can slide out or the timeout is because he's got everyone lined up to see better. If he was emotional but less conscious of getting eye contact with everyone we don't know what has gone on.


That is a lot of "what if" though. Judging the play on its merits, I'm not sure at that level in that moment I'm calling that a T.

[Rich]

"NCAA coordinator of officials John Adams released a statement supporting the call and citing Rule 10, Section 3, Article 2 on bench personnel committing unsportsmanlike acts."

[bballref3966]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

There are really only two basic skills that officials must possess to be effective: rules knowledge and judgement. The lack of judgement displayed was astonishing in this situation. Any official that does that cannot be allowed to work a game of any importance at any level.

Actually, any official that does not have the stones to take care of business when needed "cannot be allowed to work a game of any importance at any level." I think you've proven your idiocy as a whiny fanboy on more than one occasion on this forum, and this is just another shining example. Maybe you are an official, I don't know, but your ridiculous posting history wouldn't suggest that. Your reading comprehension skills also need some work.

Originally Posted by Rich

"NCAA coordinator of officials John Adams released a statement supporting the call and citing Rule 10, Section 3, Article 2 on bench personnel committing unsportsmanlike acts."

I'm sure you know more than John Adams.

[Robmoz]

Coach was jawing at the official BEFORE he commenced his huddle and complaining about a call just before the timeout...watch the first 3 seconds of the video.....the chair tipping was just the icing on the cake that set the official off, rightly so. Maybe he meant to send it towards the official not expecting any further response. He was railing the crew the previous 4-5 minutes and they extended him a lot of latitude to that point.

For any of you that come on here to blast a fellow official I say shame on you! I wonder how you would like it if we all watched a snippet video of your work and determined that you were the worst official we ever seen. Check yourself before you wreck yourself.