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Old Fri Feb 27, 2015, 09:01am
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Arizona vs Colorado Head Coach T (Possible Ejection?) (Video)

Yay or nay? Maybe he "wanted to be tossed?"

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Old Fri Feb 27, 2015, 09:21am
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The latter half of that clip he is yelling at his players to "don't quit", so the first T looks fine, but an ejection would have been unnecessary.
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Old Fri Feb 27, 2015, 09:26am
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The latter half of that clip he is yelling at his players to "don't quit", so the first T looks fine, but an ejection would have been unnecessary.
Players and assistant coaches aren't holding back a coach for telling his player to "don't quit."
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Old Fri Feb 27, 2015, 09:28am
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The latter half of that clip he is yelling at his players to "don't quit", so the first T looks fine, but an ejection would have been unnecessary.
Wouldn't have gotten to the latter half.
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Old Fri Feb 27, 2015, 11:16am
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The latter half of that clip he is yelling at his players to "don't quit", so the first T looks fine, but an ejection would have been unnecessary.
You've COMPLETELY missed what the Colorado HC was doing...he's yelling at the officials: "DON'T QUIT" because he felt they weren't calling fouls based on the officials view that the game was over (20pt lead w/ roughly 1:30 left in the game).

Unfortunately, ejections happen in situations like this because officials sometimes DO "quit officiating" and coaches do "lose it" when it does happen - or when they think it's happening.

Based on what I saw, I'm not ejecting him here. He's a frustrated coach who is venting....he got one T - he made his point....
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Old Fri Feb 27, 2015, 11:42am
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You've COMPLETELY missed what the Colorado HC was doing...he's yelling at the officials: "DON'T QUIT" because he felt they weren't calling fouls based on the officials view that the game was over (20pt lead w/ roughly 1:30 left in the game).

Unfortunately, ejections happen in situations like this because officials sometimes DO "quit officiating" and coaches do "lose it" when it does happen - or when they think it's happening.

Based on what I saw, I'm not ejecting him here. He's a frustrated coach who is venting....he got one T - he made his point....
I'd wear out a "like" button on this forum, but this post is a really good one.
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Old Fri Feb 27, 2015, 11:43am
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In college those guys get away with murder so I don't know what is expected there. However in a high school game I'm tossing him.

He seems to be referencing the "foul" on the drive to the basket. I don't see a no call here as an official who has quit.
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Old Fri Feb 27, 2015, 11:50am
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In college those guys get away with murder so I don't know what is expected there. However in a high school game I'm tossing him.

He seems to be referencing the "foul" on the drive to the basket. I don't see a no call here as an official who has quit.
I do not see coaches in college getting away with any more than I see in HS. If anything high school officials often do not have a since of the bigger picture.

This was not even close to an ejection IMO unless there was some wording that was stated I was unaware of.

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How long do we let a coach vent and turn this into a fiasco?

In this video he vents for nearly 30 seconds. He comes out on the floor and yells at lead. C whacks him. After the T he goes back to yelling at lead, then chases after C who was heading for the table...

The contact that was passed on was clearly a no call. He didn't get beat by 20 because of this no call. It was all about him and nothing to do with the game.

I agree in the current NCAA climate it is probably not an ejection... Not sure I agree with that. I think in a high school game it is an ejection...

If it is not an ejection the officials should get 30 seconds on the floor berating him, pointing out his poor coaching, his marginal recruiting, his lack of preparedness, and all the mistakes his players made.
For every ten seconds he can't take the officials berating is an extra game suspension
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Old Fri Feb 27, 2015, 01:08pm
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In college those guys get away with murder so I don't know what is expected there. However in a high school game I'm tossing him.

He seems to be referencing the "foul" on the drive to the basket. I don't see a no call here as an official who has quit.
In high school there is virtually NO accountability for officials who T/eject people - u can pretty much do what u want and there won't be any consequence (ask yourself this: "when was the last time you heard of ANY official losing games/being removed from a conference for on-court decisions/judgement?").

btw, this WAS a foul. Can the official get away w/out calling it? Sure. Can the coach feel that this foul should have been called and is evidence that the officials are "officiating the scoreboard"? Sure. Did the coach want/deserve a T? Yes. If an official is going to throw a coach out w/ 1:30 to go in a game that is already decided, then it needs to be so obvious that Ray Charles could "see" that the ejection was warranted.
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Old Fri Feb 27, 2015, 02:18pm
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In high school there is virtually NO accountability for officials who T/eject people - u can pretty much do what u want and there won't be any consequence (ask yourself this: "when was the last time you heard of ANY official losing games/being removed from a conference for on-court decisions/judgement?").
I know of a few. There is a lot more accountability than you might think. Just because you don't hear about it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. One poor call isn't going to cost an official but a pattern will. No assignor wants to keep getting calls about the same official every night.
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Old Fri Feb 27, 2015, 07:06pm
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In high school there is virtually NO accountability for officials who T/eject people - u can pretty much do what u want and there won't be any consequence (ask yourself this: "when was the last time you heard of ANY official losing games/being removed from a conference for on-court decisions/judgement?").
NONSENSE! If you toss a coach or player they automatically are suspended for the next game in my part of the world! And you can bet the house not only will you have a conversation with the assignor but someone from the State Federation Too! They have your back when the facts are on the officials side but if they are not..well you could be redlined from future assignments
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In high school there is virtually NO accountability for officials who T/eject people - u can pretty much do what u want and there won't be any consequence (ask yourself this: "when was the last time you heard of ANY official losing games/being removed from a conference for on-court decisions/judgement?").
How much high school did you actually work before moving on?
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You've COMPLETELY missed what the Colorado HC was doing...he's yelling at the officials: "DON'T QUIT" because he felt they weren't calling fouls based on the officials view that the game was over (20pt lead w/ roughly 1:30 left in the game).

Unfortunately, ejections happen in situations like this because officials sometimes DO "quit officiating" and coaches do "lose it" when it does happen - or when they think it's happening.

Based on what I saw, I'm not ejecting him here. He's a frustrated coach who is venting....he got one T - he made his point....
Serious question. How many times does he get to make his point? How long do we let him go before it is too much?
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You've COMPLETELY missed what the Colorado HC was doing...he's yelling at the officials: "DON'T QUIT" because he felt they weren't calling fouls based on the officials view that the game was over (20pt lead w/ roughly 1:30 left in the game).
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You're right, on second viewing that is definitely what he is doing.
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