Arizona vs Colorado Head Coach T (Possible Ejection?) (Video)

[APG]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

So....putting all of this in context, combined with the fact that all he's really guilty of is coaching the officials to "not quit" (I don't think any magic words were used), I think the one technical here is fine. It was certainly needed and warranted. A second one? Nope.

Let me ask....you eject the coach...is the coach gonna try and seriously argue that he shouldn't be tossed? if so, what arguement is he going to give? The coach knows what he's doing here...and he wouldn't be surprised if he got tossed.

The coach certainly does more than just "coaching the officials." The coach is out of his box and on the floor to start with. The coach gets whacked...then gives THREE overt gestures directly toward an official...two toward the new trail and one toward the slot who called the original T. Short of your bosses giving direction otherwise...this particular (IMO) ejection should be as easy as it comes.

[twocentsworth]

Originally Posted by APG

Let me ask....you eject the coach...is the coach gonna try and seriously argue that he shouldn't be tossed? if so, what arguement is he going to give?

The coach will simply submit a series of plays - including the "no call" that precipitated this incident - to the league assignor and simply say....

"Here are X number of plays that should have been called fouls and weren't simply because the officials "quit" officiating the game. Then, when I get on them about their inexcusable behavior they throw me out because THEY'RE the ones not doing their job!! I should have gotten one T...but they threw me out because they knew they were wrong. The players don't deserve this and the PAC-12 shouldn't stand for this either".

This exact scenario happens more often than you might think....

[Rich]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

The coach will simply submit a series of plays - including the "no call" that precipitated this incident - to the league assignor and simply say....

"Here are X number of plays that should have been called fouls and weren't simply because the officials "quit" officiating the game. Then, when I get on them about their inexcusable behavior they throw me out because THEY'RE the ones not doing their job!! I should have gotten one T...but they threw me out because they knew they were wrong. The players don't deserve this and the PAC-12 shouldn't stand for this either".

This exact scenario happens more often than you might think....

The assigners must be idiots, then.

I'm just a little ole HS assignor and I would applaud my officials for sending that coach on his way.

Too many assigners are more worried about keeping their job than doing their job...which doesn't mean always doing what's popular with the coaches.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by APG

I feel confident in saying this coach would be tossed in an NBA game...by officials at the highest level.

Then again, a coach at that level wouldn't do this unless he was looking to be tossed...and would be expecting it...that's a disportionate response to the play at hand.

Originally Posted by Adam

I'm getting his second at about the 25 second mark of the video.

He knows he was heard after he got the T. He got a few seconds to yell at the lead, then went back to the guy who gave him his T.
That's when he gets the second.

Ditto to these two posts. I've had one ejection in a HS game and it wasn't as demonstrative as this. Our assigner would back anyone in our association if they ejected here.

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

At a very basic level, an assignor needs a "guy w/ a pulse and a striped shirt". Why else to you think they throw a "fit" when an official tries to get off of a game on a Tue. or Fri. night? 'Cause they don't have very many good officials to use as replacements.

Here's the perfect example of what I mean. HS game this year...after 2 visiting subs enter the game, the Lead official administers the ball before both players could leave the floor. The visiting coach gets the Trails attention to stop the game so the player can get off the floor...and in a normal tone tells the Lead: "Sir, can you please wait to administer the ball so that the players get properly get off the floor?"...TWEEEEET!!!!!...(you guessed it) - visiting coach gets a T. When brought to the assignors attention, who do you think he supported...the Lead (who was completely in the wrong) or the Coach who had a valid complaint? (My jaw practically hit the floor when I witnessed it).

My point is, unless it's a rule that gets kicked (which happens to state final officials as well as rookies), officials rarely get in trouble w/ HS assignors.

I think you make some good points here, especially the bolded sentence. I just don't think it applies to this video or an official ejecting this coach if it happened in a HS game.