Blarge

[APG]

Originally Posted by just another ref

And it seems to me that if the NFHS wanted to take away the option of handling it like I suggest, they could easily make that a bit more clear:

"If conflicting preliminary signals are given, then and only then both fouls must be reported."


But there is no reference to signals, good bad or otherwise, requiring anything be done afterward, in this or any other case. And there is also nothing saying that officials may not confer, in this or any other case, before making the final ruling.

They could...but perhaps they don't cause 98 percent of officials know what is meant by the case book play...so the clarification isn't needed in their minds and they are better off spending their energies on deciding whether we are to become the sock police.

If the NFHS wanted to go the route of NCAA-W, then I think they'd make their case book play more closely match that from the NCAA-W's case book. The case book play mandates the officials to get together and decide which call to go with. As it is, it doesn't even come close to matching it. Not. Even. Close. If NFHS wants to go with what you're suggesting, they would have to go with a major editorial change (that would amount to a rule change).

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by APG

If NFHS wants to go with what you're suggesting, they would have to go with a major editorial change (that would amount to a rule change).

How so? They could simply delete the case play altogether, which already is in direct conflict with the rule. If the case play were gone, how would you proceed then?

[ronny mulkey]

Originally Posted by just another ref

How so? They could simply delete the case play altogether, which already is in direct conflict with the rule. If the case play were gone, how would you proceed then?

Removing the case play may help you WIN this discussion but it will take much more than that to get all officials on the same page when this play occurs. Down here, we are heavily influenced by Women's college officials. They routinely apply your reasoning and do not catch much grief from the coaches for it, either.

I am waiting for one of them to apply it your way during a hotly contested state tournament game???? I am curious on as to how GHSA would handle this???

[Welpe]

And the Great Blarge Debate of 2015 has begun.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Welpe

And the Great Blarge Debate of 2015 has begun.

Really not much of a debate. It always seems that everyone involved is certain of his own position.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Really not much of a debate. It always seems that everyone involved in certain of his own position.

I don't have a position. I have been expressly told how to handle the situation by multiple supervisors.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I don't have a position. I have been expressly told how to handle the situation by multiple supervisors.

Exactly. And in my case, the people I work for do not like Women's College basketball, so they could give a damn what they do or want. This is HS and college that I work and the rules are clear as to what to do.

Peace

Can we stop please? This is the mirror image of the last thread we had on the issue and absent additional input from Theresa (did JAR ever email her and ask her what the case play was supposed to mean?) we will continue to treat this play according to our preconceived notions.