Blarge

[The_Rookie]

R1 calls a block on B1 and R2 calls Player Control Foul on A1 airborne shooter. Double personal foul called.

1) If the basket is good..do we count the basket?

2) Use AP for subsequent throw in?

NFHS

Originally Posted by The_Rookie

R1 calls a block on B1 and R2 calls Player Control Foul on A1 airborne shooter. Double personal foul called.

1) If the basket is good..do we count the basket?

2) Use AP for subsequent throw in?

NFHS

Assuming the ball was released before contact, count the basket and resume at POI which is team B endline throw-in.

[bballref3966]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Assuming the ball was released before contact, count the basket and resume at POI which is team B endline throw-in.

Remember that an airborne shooter has released the ball, by definition.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by The_Rookie

1) If the basket is good..do we count the basket?

Yes the basket counts. This is not a PC by definition, it is a double foul.

Originally Posted by The_Rookie

2) Use AP for subsequent throw in?

Not unless the shot is missed. Otherwise it is POI give the ball to B on the end line.

Peace

[Rob1968]

As JRut said, see Case Book 4.19.8 Sit. C.

[OKREF]

Is this two man or three man mechanics? Here we have two man, every game I work we pregame this specific scenario, if we have a double whistle and the ball is in the lane the lead always takes it. The trail goes up with a fist and holds his preliminary signal.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by OKREF

Is this two man or three man mechanics? Here we have two man, every game I work we pregame this specific scenario, if we have a double whistle and the ball is in the lane the lead always takes it. The trail goes up with a fist and holds his preliminary signal.

Of course. But, sometimes is doesn't happen the way we'd like it to happen.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by OKREF

Is this two man or three man mechanics? Here we have two man, every game I work we pregame this specific scenario, if we have a double whistle and the ball is in the lane the lead always takes it. The trail goes up with a fist and holds his preliminary signal.

I believe that to be standard pregame conversation for all games, 2-man or 3-man, but it still doesn't prevent blarges from occurring.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by OKREF

Is this two man or three man mechanics? Here we have two man, every game I work we pregame this specific scenario, if we have a double whistle and the ball is in the lane the lead always takes it. The trail goes up with a fist and holds his preliminary signal.

Pregame this all you want, but be prepared for that play where not everyone does it the way you pregamed.

[BryanV21]

My two partners earlier this year had a blarge, and they went with a charge based on the fact that it was in that official's primary.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

My two partners earlier this year had a blarge, and they went with a charge based on the fact that it was in that official's primary.

We can't get away with that ruling in these parts. Coaches know when we have F'ed it up, they expect us to go with the double foul.

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

We can't get away with that ruling in these parts. Coaches know when we have F'ed it up, they expect us to go with the double foul.

I stayed out of the way while they sorted it out, and the one coach (who didn't get the call) wanted to know why. I didn't see any sort of argument, so I guess we got lucky.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

I stayed out of the way while they sorted it out, and the one coach (who didn't get the call) wanted to know why. I didn't see any sort of argument, so I guess we got lucky.

You did. Around here, it would be the same as BNR's. Additionally, and this is where the real problem lies, this would get back to the assigner and would not go well.

[Smitty]

Had my first ever blarge this season. It felt as crappy as you'd think it would feel. It was 3-man, I was C. Play started and finished on my side of the paint. My L didn't get the pre-game memo that C has first crack on his side. It just happened, even though we pre-gamed it. Neither coach had any idea what was supposed to happen under the circumstances, but we explained it to both. Thankfully the coaches were reasonable with the explanation and we handled it the right way. I am very hesitant to jump on a block/charge anymore, no matter which position I'm in. Don't want to have it happen again.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Smitty

Had my first ever blarge this season. It felt as crappy as you'd think it would feel. It was 3-man, I was C. Play started and finished on my side of the paint. My L didn't get the pre-game memo that C has first crack on his side. It just happened, even though we pre-gamed it. Neither coach had any idea what was supposed to happen under the circumstances, but we explained it to both. Thankfully the coaches were reasonable with the explanation and we handled it the right way. I am very hesitant to jump on a block/charge anymore, no matter which position I'm in. Don't want to have it happen again.

Had one in a summer game a few years ago, I was gun-shy for a while after that. Not with blowing the whistle, but I was extra careful about showing my prelim.