Coaches on Sidelines Who "Need a Get Back Coach"

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If I have to avoid a coach on a basketball court by them being on the court, the only option is me giving them a T. For one it is for my safety as well as the safety of the players that might run into them. I will do everything to tell them to move back, but I am not babysitting. They know the darn rule and we have a rule that is highly expected to be enforced around here. I will be supported just by giving a T if I have to go through all of that drama.

Peace

So many courts have no room on the sidelines and the benches are right up against the court -- they just aren't well constructed for 3-person mechanics. If I'm the C, I want to be out of bounds 90% of the time, on the sideline. That's also in the middle of the coaching box. I'm happy to share.

One coach moved me once and I would've been well within my rights to whack him, but I didn't sense anything malicious so I told him that he gets to move me only if I get to move him if I need to. He laughed, I laughed.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Rich

So many courts have no room on the sidelines and the benches are right up against the court -- they just aren't well constructed for 3-person mechanics. If I'm the C, I want to be out of bounds 90% of the time, on the sideline. That's also in the middle of the coaching box. I'm happy to share.

One coach moved me once and I would've been well within my rights to whack him, but I didn't sense anything malicious so I told him that he gets to move me only if I get to move him if I need to. He laughed, I laughed.

There are a lot of gyms here or the newer ones have more than enough room for benches and coaches. Maybe 15 years ago I could totally agree with that assessment, but that is not so much the case anymore. And I am not nitpicking a coach's shoes over the line either. I am just not going to do a lot to avoid a coach.

I also do not need to be out of bounds, especially in 3 person mechanics at the C. The ball is usually on the other side of the court at that time so I cannot think of why I would need to be out of bounds. If I am T, I am almost always on the court, so this is not much of an issue for me.

Peace

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

There are a lot of gyms here or the newer ones have more than enough room for benches and coaches. Maybe 15 years ago I could totally agree with that assessment, but that is not so much the case anymore. And I am not nitpicking a coach's shoes over the line either. I am just not going to do a lot to avoid a coach.

I also do not need to be out of bounds, especially in 3 person mechanics at the C. The ball is usually on the other side of the court at that time so I cannot think of why I would need to be out of bounds. If I am T, I am almost always on the court, so this is not much of an issue for me.

Peace

WRT C positioning, I agree. I used to think OOB was the place to be, but then a JOCO conference commissioner critiqued me and said, "don't run up and down OOB, because quite frankly that's how you'll get hurt, and I don't want my officials getting hurt." So I asked him, "what if the play swings right over to where you are?" He said, "then it's ok to step off briefly to get the angle you need and/or stay out of the way, but then get right back on the floor." It all made good sense.

WRT benches, is it just me or has anyone else lately noticed that when you come to a gym with chairs and plenty of room behind them, the chairs are nonetheless invariably within the painted strip and maybe ~18 inches from the sideline. Makes inbounding the ball in one of those spots a pain in the arse. Seems like a trend in my area. Does anyone ever ask the game manager to have the chairs moved back, or would this be considered taboo?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

WRT C positioning, I agree. I used to think OOB was the place to be, but then a JOCO conference commissioner critiqued me and said, "don't run up and down OOB, because quite frankly that's how you'll get hurt, and I don't want my officials getting hurt." So I asked him, "what if the play swings right over to where you are?" He said, "then it's ok to step off briefly to get the angle you need and/or stay out of the way, but then get right back on the floor." It all made good sense.

WRT benches, is it just me or has anyone else lately noticed that when you come to a gym with chairs and plenty of room behind them, the chairs are nonetheless invariably within the painted strip and maybe ~18 inches from the sideline. Makes inbounding the ball in one of those spots a pain in the arse. Seems like a trend in my area. Does anyone ever ask the game manager to have the chairs moved back, or would this be considered taboo?

I've seen this many times -- the chairs are placed in relation to the court. I haven't asked to move any...yet.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

WRT C positioning, I agree. I used to think OOB was the place to be, but then a JOCO conference commissioner critiqued me and said, "don't run up and down OOB, because quite frankly that's how you'll get hurt, and I don't want my officials getting hurt." So I asked him, "what if the play swings right over to where you are?" He said, "then it's ok to step off briefly to get the angle you need and/or stay out of the way, but then get right back on the floor." It all made good sense.

WRT benches, is it just me or has anyone else lately noticed that when you come to a gym with chairs and plenty of room behind them, the chairs are nonetheless invariably within the painted strip and maybe ~18 inches from the sideline. Makes inbounding the ball in one of those spots a pain in the arse. Seems like a trend in my area. Does anyone ever ask the game manager to have the chairs moved back, or would this be considered taboo?

I'll move chairs that are too close to the scorer's table.

The 'warning' in my area is more like a "we're done, no one talks to this coach" kind of deal. That's the hard crew warning, I don't consider an individual "settle down coach" or "knock it off coach" to be a crew warning. A crew warning happens when the coach has used up all his rope, be it with the crew as a whole or one individual. When that happens the crew no longer communicates with the coach other than to deliver the warning. The warning official can talk to the coach if need be, but the other two officials are done with him. It's been tricky for me to figure out to say the least.

[Raymond]

I do work with one crew chief who wants any coach's warnings annotated in the book.

[jeremy341a]

We have a new coach in our area. An official gave him a T earlier this year. The Coach filed a special report through the state on the official because he did not warn him before the T.