Foul or Held Ball? (Video)

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

I have a pushing foul by B33 against W5. B33 jumps forward into W5 after W5 goes airborne and makes full body contact with B33.

MTD, Sr.

In my world, that satisfies the principal of verticality and colloquially would be known as a "weenie foul."

[Pantherdreams]

I have the player jumping vertically but moving forward into space while the offense is gathered and jumping into their shot. Did not have LGP in the position he's trying to maintain vertically. If you are going to call the foul that's enough to put it on the D.

In my corner of the universe in a game where players are athletic enough to do that (which isn't often) you need a lot more contact then that to have anything but a no call or in this case the held ball.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by Pantherdreams

In my corner of the universe in a game where players are athletic enough to do that (which isn't often) you need a lot more contact then that to have anything but a no call or in this case the held ball.

Mine, too. Technically a foul by strict interpretation, but sometimes we have to be loose constructionists in our business. If the defender is going up mostly vertical, and is clearly that athletic, and gets hand on ball at the apex....not a foul! This kind of play is great for the game. Excellent place for a held ball.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Pantherdreams

I have the player jumping vertically but moving forward into space while the offense is gathered and jumping into their shot.

I'm not sure how it works in FIBA but in NFHS as long as the defender is done moving forward before the offensive player goes airborne, he can still obtain LGP.

That said, I have a held ball and that's it.

[Pantherdreams]

Originally Posted by Welpe

I'm not sure how it works in FIBA but in NFHS as long as the defender is done moving forward before the offensive player goes airborne, he can still obtain LGP.

That said, I have a held ball and that's it.

FIBA we go on the gather now (similar to the NCAA interp from last year that they reversed this year). That being said I felt like the offense was still coming forward when the offense left the floor.

But I've got held ball as that has little to no impact on the play.