Most points scored by 1 player on 1 play - 10/15/other?

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by luvhoops

After all this, try reading NFHS Case 6.7.4, which involves multiple fouls by opponents at different times (False Multiple Foul). I have seen that occur dozens of time but again, never called and adjudicated as written. We probably have all seen it. A1 driving hard to the hoop, B1 reaches and fouls A1 on the arm, then A1 charges into B2.

6.7.4 involves false DOUBLE fouls. opponents involved. multiple fouls involve teammates. yes you have more than one foul but how they are classified depends on who commits them.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by luvhoops

2) In one act/motion, A1 attempts an unsuccessful 3-point shot and is fouled by 5 defenders AT DIFFERENT TIMES. How many points can theoretically be scored?

The only way this can be literally at different times is if the shooter goes up, gets hit and thrown in the air, caught by another defender and thrown back in the air, caught by another... etc.

The amount of time between the shooter going up and landing, in normal play, is still "approximately at the same time".

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Adam

You've only seen multiple players foul the same shooter once in 30 years?

Every game may be a bit extreme, but once in 30 years seems extreme, also.

My guess on this... somewhere between once in 30 years and every single game. I bet I'm right.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

The only way this can be literally at different times is if the shooter goes up, gets hit and thrown in the air, caught by another defender and thrown back in the air, caught by another... etc.

The amount of time between the shooter going up and landing, in normal play, is still "approximately at the same time".

i agree if we are talking about normal usage of the words. but 4.19.12 tells us that being fouled in the air on a shot and then fouled again on landing are not "approximately the same time." those are to be considered false multiple fouls as opposed to just multiple fouls.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by BigCat

i agree if we are talking about normal usage of the words. but 4.19.12 tells us that being fouled in the air on a shot and then fouled again on landing are not "approximately the same time." those are to be considered false multiple fouls as opposed to just multiple fouls.

Agreed. Throw 3 more fouls in there in the interim, though...

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Agreed. Throw 3 more fouls in there in the interim, though...

oh, i know it is goofy and won't happen. but those 3 are between the first and last. they are also false multiples. false multiple definition says "2 or more" fouls by same team such that LAST committed before clock started following FIRST. the case play shows us the first and last are false multiples. so the 3 in between are also. (2 or more)…thx

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

That isn't what is mean by approximately the same/different time.

This is a false multiple.....B1 fouls A1.....clock stops. Durning the FT or the throwin, B2 fouls A1.

If the foul is on the same try, it is approximately the same time, and should be a regular multiple, even if you can discern that one occurred slightly after the other.

If what you suggested were true, it would be possible for the 3-point shooter to get fouled 5 times and miss and get 15 shots (3 points for each foul) since each foul in a false set is penalized independently and in the order of occurrence.
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take a look at the case play--4.19.12. i go up. you foul me in air. i start coming down and before one foot touches ground MD slides under me. you guys on same team. ruling--false multiple--2 free throws each….

it is their play..and yes by that play 15 is the number.

[billyu2]

Originally Posted by Adam

You've only seen multiple players foul the same shooter once in 30 years?

Every game may be a bit extreme, but once in 30 years seems extreme, also.

Well, Adam, I'll admit I've seen several "maybees?" over the years that were quickly interpreted as one foul. But there was this one that jumped out right in front of me, clearly daring me to call a multiple foul - no question about it.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BigCat

take a look at the case play--4.19.12. i go up. you foul me in air. i start coming down and before one foot touches ground MD slides under me. you guys on same team. ruling--false multiple--2 free throws each….

it is their play..and yes by that play 15 is the number.

Yes, I looked it up after I posted that...and deleted my post. According to the case, you're right. It doesn't make a lot of sense, but it is what the case says.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Yes, I looked it up after I posted that...and deleted my post. According to the case, you're right. It doesn't make a lot of sense, but it is what the case says.

agreed...and remember

"once the stands empty and it becomes a free for all, my job is done."

deecee January 14, 2015.

(that makes me laugh every time i think about it...)

[potato]

[QUOTE=bob jenkins;950236]

Originally Posted by potato

Are you guys saying if A1 goes up for a 2pt layup, gets fouled by B1 and continues for a shot and B2 comes in to block the shot but fouls A1, and the shot enters, A1 gets another 2 free throws 1 for each foul? never seen it before.[/quote[

By rule, yes. In practice, no.



For multiple fouls:

1 FT for each foul if no try, a 2-point try (successful or not), or a successful 3-point try.

2 FTs for each foul if an unsuccessful 3-point try, or an I or F

The 1FT for each try i assume is the penalty for the foul after the initial foul?

[bob jenkins]

[QUOTE=potato;950388]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The 1FT for each try i assume is the penalty for the foul after the initial foul?

It's the penalty for each of the fouls that is a part of the multiple foul.