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Old Sat Mar 10, 2012, 10:45pm
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7 points in a championship game....7 dang points?!

Just got done watching the Oregon's 5A girls championship game online (our second biggest classification). Final score 16-7....halftime score was 4-0.

The team that lost didn't score their first point until a minute left in the 3Q on a FT. They were just content on passing the ball around the outside and wouldn't even take a shot if it was open....

A game for the ages....lol
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Old Sun Mar 11, 2012, 02:25am
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Your state sits between CA and Washington, both of which have a shot clock for HS girls basketball. You will now have one next year. Be thankful.
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Old Sun Mar 11, 2012, 02:46am
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What really makes no sense to me is, from what I see in news reports, Willamette had lost to Springfield by only three in a game earlier in the season. The coach wasn't exactly showing a lot of confidence in his kids.

One report said the game lasted an hour. I wonder if the officials even had to shower after it was over?
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Old Sun Mar 11, 2012, 09:48am
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Your state sits between CA and Washington, both of which have a shot clock for HS girls basketball. You will now have one next year. Be thankful.
That is the main reason why WA went to the shot clock for Girls games a number of years ago. There were too many games like this. Not sure why we added the shot clock on the Boys side, but we have it on both now.
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Old Sun Mar 11, 2012, 11:51am
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Your state sits between CA and Washington, both of which have a shot clock for HS girls basketball. You will now have one next year. Be thankful.
The money isn't there for 3 man/women officiating crews so I don't think a shot clock is on the horizon either....

I do have to say though I've done a ton of high level GV games over the last couple of years and even the worst teams in the worst games still attacked and at least attempted to score. They would put up shots if they were open and no they often didn't go in but at least they attempted to score....more so then I can say for the game I watched last night.

In the summer here, there is a NCAA sanctioned summer tournament and I've been told it's the largest girls tourney in the country. Really good ball and they use NCAA-W rules which include a shot clock. It's fun for officials like me who don't get to use a shot clock at all during the year and I'm surprised since most of the teams come from non-shot clock states how few times the shot clock is an issue.

I still think the game last night was the exception to the rule...or at least I hope it is!
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Old Sun Mar 11, 2012, 11:54am
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Shot Clock

There is currently no plan for Oregon to change to a shot clock.

Remember Oregon still uses two officials crew at even the state championship level games.

It will take a minimum of three years to change the protocal.

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Washington Girls have used the shot clock for DECADES.
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Old Sun Mar 11, 2012, 11:56am
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We don't need no stinkin' money...

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The money isn't there for 3 man/women officiating crews so I don't think a shot clock is on the horizon either....
In NYS we use the shot clock for girls and AA boys (our highest level). Other than the few leagues willing to pay for a third official and the later rounds of the playoffs we use two-person crews.

Have no fear. If your leagues want to do it, money is no object!
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Here's the link to the story of the game:

Class 5A girls championship: Springfield defeats Willamette 16-7 after Wolverines' stall tactics fail - OregonLive.com
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Sounds like the refs could have pulled chairs out onto the court and watched the game sitting down.
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One of those refs was an infrequent poster but frequent lurker on this board.

I won't reveal his identity unless he chooses to.

Here is the actual game if anyone wants to have something playing in the background while they sleep. OSAA.tv Video Portal
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Old Sun Mar 11, 2012, 08:41pm
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If I was trying a case for a shot clock, I would simply play a video of the second quarter and rest my case.

The spectators should ask for their money back.
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Old Sun Mar 11, 2012, 09:10pm
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One of those refs was an infrequent poster but frequent lurker on this board.

I won't reveal his identity unless he chooses to.

Here is the actual game if anyone wants to have something playing in the background while they sleep. OSAA.tv Video Portal
Or we could just watch the Boys 5A championship game that you worked after the snooze fest that was the girls game

Congrats BTW!
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Old Sun Mar 11, 2012, 10:36pm
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Imagine the excitement of being assigned to this game, showing up to officiate, and you have to endure THAT?.....yuck!

At least the crew didn't get paid by the whistle...
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Anyone seen the film of Milan vs Muncie?

Even though White conceded the jump ball to begin the game, would anyone penalize Blue's jumper for catching the toss with one hand and throwing it to a teammate?

Announcer stated that Tyler Pendergast and Bill Draper were the officials, and that this would be the easiest game check that they ever received.

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Old Mon Mar 12, 2012, 08:44am
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Even though White conceded the jump ball to begin the game, would anyone penalize Blue's jumper for catching the toss with one hand and throwing it to a teammate?
I saw that also. Talk about an omen of things to come. I guess I'm OK with passing on a whistle here. White conceded the tip and I have to think that threw the blue player off enough to cause the violation.
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