NCAA Men's question

Originally Posted by just another ref

The definitions says: A player control foul is a common foul......

Aha! I agree, stupid wording. Forgive me though if I use some common sense and disallow the basket when an airborne shooter karate-kicks a legal defender in the face after releasing the ball.

[La Rikardo]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Aha! I agree, stupid wording. Forgive me though if I use some common sense and disallow the basket when an airborne shooter karate-kicks a legal defender in the face after releasing the ball.

Wrong by the book, but I don't think you'll find anyone questioning you on the court.

Originally Posted by La Rikardo

Wrong by the book, but I don't think you'll find anyone questioning you on the court.

Let's hope not.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Aha! I agree, stupid wording. Forgive me though if I use some common sense and disallow the basket when an airborne shooter karate-kicks a legal defender in the face after releasing the ball.

Originally Posted by La Rikardo

Wrong by the book, but I don't think you'll find anyone questioning you on the court.

Originally Posted by AremRed

Let's hope not.

As an evaluator you both would have a new tuchus hole if you didn't enforce the rule correctly.

MTD, Sr.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Aha! I agree, stupid wording. Forgive me though if I use some common sense and disallow the basket when an airborne shooter karate-kicks a legal defender in the face after releasing the ball.

Just call the shooter for swinging elbows while they do that and it, being a violation on the offense, will kill the ball instantly....and then call the T.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Just call the shooter for swinging elbows while they do that and it, being a violation on the offense, will kill the ball instantly....and then call the T.

Just like I never call a T for slapping the ball out of a thrower's hands cuz I call the delay of game first! I like it.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Just like I never call a T for slapping the ball out of a thrower's hands cuz I call the delay of game first! I like it.

I really hope that you're not serious.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Just like I never call a T for slapping the ball out of a thrower's hands cuz I call the delay of game first! I like it.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I really hope that you're not serious.

I've often wondered (technically, not by application) how one (cross boundary) can happen before the other one (slap), and still be ignored (with the exception of a warning being written in the book).

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I've often wondered (technically, not by application) how one (cross boundary) can happen before the other one (slap), and still be ignored (with the exception of a warning being written in the book).

That's like asking why a player doesn't receive a flagrant technical foul for each punch that he throws during a fight.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I really hope that you're not serious.

I'm not. Called my first one this summer!

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by AremRed

I'm not. Called my first one this summer!

There's some case play to the effect of "penalize the entire act", so you need to get the T on this (and the T also serves as the warning).

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

there's some case play to the effect of "penalize the entire act", so you need to get the t on this (and the t also serves as the warning).

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins

There's some case play to the effect of "penalize the entire act", so you need to get the T on this (and the T also serves as the warning).

I did! Men's rec, go figure.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by La Rikardo

If it's a borderline call between PC and intentional in this particular end-of-game situation, I'd be inclined to err on the side of PC because of this rule.

Originally Posted by AremRed

Aha! I agree, stupid wording. Forgive me though if I use some common sense and disallow the basket when an airborne shooter karate-kicks a legal defender in the face after releasing the ball.

Nevada, La Rikardo and AremRed had basically the same opinion I did. Don't you have any vitriol for them, too?