NCAA Men's question

[La Rikardo]

If it's a borderline call between PC and intentional in this particular end-of-game situation, I'd be inclined to err on the side of PC because of this rule. If, however, the airborne shooter kicks an opponent in the face after releasing the ball on the try, I wouldn't have much of a choice but to count the basket. Slightly absurd.

Either that or they could just go with the NCAA rule of counting the basket regardless of any foul that may occur after the ball is in flight on a try.

Can someone explain to me why a flagrant or intentional foul committed by an airborne shooter cannot also be classified a player-control foul? I read the definitions of each and don't see anything that makes them mutually exclusive.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Can someone explain to me why a flagrant or intentional foul committed by an airborne shooter cannot also be classified a player-control foul? I read the definitions of each and don't see anything that makes them mutually exclusive.

The definitions says: A player control foul is a common foul......

Originally Posted by just another ref

The definitions says: A player control foul is a common foul......

Aha! I agree, stupid wording. Forgive me though if I use some common sense and disallow the basket when an airborne shooter karate-kicks a legal defender in the face after releasing the ball.

[La Rikardo]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Aha! I agree, stupid wording. Forgive me though if I use some common sense and disallow the basket when an airborne shooter karate-kicks a legal defender in the face after releasing the ball.

Wrong by the book, but I don't think you'll find anyone questioning you on the court.

Originally Posted by La Rikardo

Wrong by the book, but I don't think you'll find anyone questioning you on the court.

Let's hope not.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Aha! I agree, stupid wording. Forgive me though if I use some common sense and disallow the basket when an airborne shooter karate-kicks a legal defender in the face after releasing the ball.

Originally Posted by La Rikardo

Wrong by the book, but I don't think you'll find anyone questioning you on the court.

Originally Posted by AremRed

Let's hope not.

As an evaluator you both would have a new tuchus hole if you didn't enforce the rule correctly.

MTD, Sr.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Aha! I agree, stupid wording. Forgive me though if I use some common sense and disallow the basket when an airborne shooter karate-kicks a legal defender in the face after releasing the ball.

Just call the shooter for swinging elbows while they do that and it, being a violation on the offense, will kill the ball instantly....and then call the T.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Just call the shooter for swinging elbows while they do that and it, being a violation on the offense, will kill the ball instantly....and then call the T.

Just like I never call a T for slapping the ball out of a thrower's hands cuz I call the delay of game first! I like it.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Just like I never call a T for slapping the ball out of a thrower's hands cuz I call the delay of game first! I like it.

I really hope that you're not serious.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by La Rikardo

If it's a borderline call between PC and intentional in this particular end-of-game situation, I'd be inclined to err on the side of PC because of this rule.

Originally Posted by AremRed

Aha! I agree, stupid wording. Forgive me though if I use some common sense and disallow the basket when an airborne shooter karate-kicks a legal defender in the face after releasing the ball.

Nevada, La Rikardo and AremRed had basically the same opinion I did. Don't you have any vitriol for them, too?