NCAA Men's question

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Just call the shooter for swinging elbows while they do that and it, being a violation on the offense, will kill the ball instantly....and then call the T.

Just like I never call a T for slapping the ball out of a thrower's hands cuz I call the delay of game first! I like it.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Just like I never call a T for slapping the ball out of a thrower's hands cuz I call the delay of game first! I like it.

I really hope that you're not serious.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Just like I never call a T for slapping the ball out of a thrower's hands cuz I call the delay of game first! I like it.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I really hope that you're not serious.

I've often wondered (technically, not by application) how one (cross boundary) can happen before the other one (slap), and still be ignored (with the exception of a warning being written in the book).

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I've often wondered (technically, not by application) how one (cross boundary) can happen before the other one (slap), and still be ignored (with the exception of a warning being written in the book).

That's like asking why a player doesn't receive a flagrant technical foul for each punch that he throws during a fight.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I really hope that you're not serious.

I'm not. Called my first one this summer!

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by AremRed

I'm not. Called my first one this summer!

There's some case play to the effect of "penalize the entire act", so you need to get the T on this (and the T also serves as the warning).

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

there's some case play to the effect of "penalize the entire act", so you need to get the t on this (and the t also serves as the warning).

9.2.10 a

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BigCat

9.2.10 a

NFHS 9.2.10 SITUATION A: A1 is out of bounds for a throw-in. B1 reaches through
the boundary plane and knocks the ball out of A1’s hands. Team B has not been
warned previously for a throw-in plane infraction. RULING: B1 is charged with a
technical foul and it also results in the official having a team warning recorded
and reported to the head coach. COMMENT: In situations with the clock running
and five or less seconds left in the game, a throw-in plane violation or interfering
with the ball following a goal should be ignored if its only purpose is to stop the
clock. However, if the tactic in any way interferes with the thrower’s efforts to
make a throw-in, a technical foul for delay shall be called even though no previous
warning had been issued. In this situation, if the official stopped the clock
and issued a team warning, it would allow the team to benefit from the tactic. (4-
47-1; 10-1-5b, c; 10-3-10)

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

NFHS 9.2.10 SITUATION A: A1 is out of bounds for a throw-in. B1 reaches through
the boundary plane and knocks the ball out of A1’s hands. Team B has not been
warned previously for a throw-in plane infraction. RULING: B1 is charged with a
technical foul and it also results in the official having a team warning recorded
and reported to the head coach. COMMENT: In situations with the clock running
and five or less seconds left in the game, a throw-in plane violation or interfering
with the ball following a goal should be ignored if its only purpose is to stop the
clock. However, if the tactic in any way interferes with the thrower’s efforts to
make a throw-in, a technical foul for delay shall be called even though no previous
warning had been issued. In this situation, if the official stopped the clock
and issued a team warning, it would allow the team to benefit from the tactic. (4-
47-1; 10-1-5b, c; 10-3-10)

I had a game in a shootout earlier this season where this almost came up. There was under 10 seconds left in the game and the coach of the team that was trailing (Down four I think) told me at the end of a timeout that if they scored immediately following the timeout, his team was going to reach through the plane and get a DoG warning. I was walking away so I just nodded, then this case play popped into my head and I realized I was going to ignore it if it came with under five seconds left, then I would have the explain to him why I didn't stop the clock and give the warning. Thankfully they didn't even score so it didn't come to that.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

There's some case play to the effect of "penalize the entire act", so you need to get the T on this (and the T also serves as the warning).

I did! Men's rec, go figure.