Just like a test question!

[HokiePaul]

Originally Posted by Adam

I never suggested that. I don't happen to agree that a visible count is necessary: that's a legitimate point of contention.

If you have a mental count, that's enough. If you're not counting in your head, though, that's not definite knowledge: it's a guess.

I apologize. I misread your statement below to mean a visible count.

Originally Posted by Adam

If I don't have a count, I'm not doing anything, because I don't have enough information.

However, it was suggested by others that a visible count is required.

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

Can't use a three second count to take time off the clock, it must be a visible count.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I agree. Any count which is going to be used to remove time needs to be a visible count in this age of video. I'm not getting called in later to defend a mental count. The arm swings will show up on the video.