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Old Wed Nov 09, 2005, 12:29am
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True or false: Holding or moving a hand or hands in front of the face of a player who has the ball, by an opponent who is in a legal guarding position, constitutes unsporting tactics and is illegal.

I kinda get a conflict from rulebook and casebook on this.
10.3.7 says yes it is, but 10-3-7 specifically mentions purposely obstructing vision by placing hand(s) near the eyes.

I said false, my partner said true. I hereby use a lifeline and poll the audience.
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Old Wed Nov 09, 2005, 03:27am
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I've got to go with true. Almost word for word from the case book. One says face and the other says eyes.
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Old Wed Nov 09, 2005, 06:19am
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From the 2004-05 Rulebook when they expanded the "face guarding" rule:

POE 4A- FACE GUARDING- "Face guarding is defined in rule 10-3-7d as purposely obstructing an opponent's vision by waving or placing hands(s) near his or her eyes......The committee does not intend for good defense to be penalized. Challenging a shooter with a 'hand in the face' or fronting a post player with a hand in the air are examples of acceptable actions."
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Old Wed Nov 09, 2005, 08:36am
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Originally posted by just another ref
True or false: Holding or moving a hand or hands in front of the face of a player who has the ball, by an opponent who is in a legal guarding position, constitutes unsporting tactics and is illegal.

I kinda get a conflict from rulebook and casebook on this.
10.3.7 says yes it is, but 10-3-7 specifically mentions purposely obstructing vision by placing hand(s) near the eyes.

I said false, my partner said true. I hereby use a lifeline and poll the audience.
Isn't this one of the FED PArt 1 questions? I think the question is testing to see whether the respondent remembers the rule change from last year -- it's now a T to "face guard" the player who has the ball, not just the player without the ball.

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Old Wed Nov 09, 2005, 10:34am
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Originally posted by just another ref
True or false: Holding or moving a hand or hands in front of the face of a player who has the ball, by an opponent who is in a legal guarding position, constitutes unsporting tactics and is illegal.

I kinda get a conflict from rulebook and casebook on this.
10.3.7 says yes it is, but 10-3-7 specifically mentions purposely obstructing vision by placing hand(s) near the eyes.

I said false, my partner said true. I hereby use a lifeline and poll the audience.
Isn't this one of the FED PArt 1 questions? I think the question is testing to see whether the respondent remembers the rule change from last year -- it's now a T to "face guard" the player who has the ball, not just the player without the ball.

Not quite....

FED Pt.1--#72 is "Is it a technical foul for a player to purposely obstruct the vision of an opponent with the ball"

Your reasoning certainly is right for that question. Different concept in t'other question though methinks.
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Old Thu Nov 10, 2005, 12:48am
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Uncertainty here as well. My partner and I had 10 questions that we answered differently. When I went to the books to check I thought he had 6 of these right and I had 4. Our scores came back saying we missed the same number and this is the only question that I had any doubt about when I rechecked. So apparently either this question was false or somebody (one of us or whoever scored the test) made a mistake somewhere.
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Old Thu Nov 10, 2005, 08:24am
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Looks like #72 might be what you're talking about. 10-3-7d ... F
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