Video Request: Dec. 19 Arizona-UTEP Traveling???

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Others do call these but many officials let them go as well.

This is the problem. We have a black and white rule, as opposed to varying judgment on whether or not to make a call. He lifted the pivot, then put it back down, but some choose to let it go to create "a more attractive brand of basketball for the viewer."


This creates inconsistency, which is our worst enemy as officials.

[Rich1]

I have a travel in all three video examples and call this any time I see it. If a pivot foot is established and it comes off the floor and is then put back down it is a travel. The dribbler can't pick up the ball, plant his right foot, spin onto his left foot, and then replant his right foot on the way to the basket (or any where else) when I'm on the whistle.

Now, if I am not sure he planted the first foot before clutching the ball then I can't call the violation - call it a miss if you want but if it is that close or I am not sure then I don't guess. I know refs who say anytime a player spins like this it should be assumed they traveled but that's not any better than those who choose to ignore it.

I do think I get more grief from coaches for calling it because so many do not. I agree with other posters that its a rule that beeds to be consistently enforced. I also know tat not everyone has the experience or ability to pick up on the smaller nuances of the game such as this which is why they do not see the travel when it occurs.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

This is the problem. We have a black and white rule, as opposed to varying judgment on whether or not to make a call. He lifted the pivot, then put it back down, but some choose to let it go to create "a more attractive brand of basketball for the viewer."


This creates inconsistency, which is our worst enemy as officials.

There were just a bulletin put out by the NCAA Men's side and John Adams showing several travels called. So travels are being called but once again, they are not easy to identify. And I could show you the same situation with HS officials. It has nothing to do with level.

Peace

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

So travels are being called but once again, they are not easy to identify.

All three in the video in this thread are very easy to identify. Do you disagree?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

So travels are being called but once again, they are not easy to identify.

Originally Posted by just another ref

All three in the video in this thread are very easy to identify. Do you disagree?

Rut often ignores direct questions.

[Rich]

Some people are truly obsessed about traveling. Shrug.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Rich

Some people are truly obsessed about traveling. Shrug.

I am obsessed with anything that is this easy to see that goes uncalled, for whatever reason, this often.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Rut often ignores direct questions.

I have actually answered your question. But I think like a guy that goes to a strip club or the casino all the time, people like yourself are often obsessed over this issue.

Travels are missed every single game, by either having them called improperly or if we do not call them. We have isolated a few plays and you act like there is an epidemic. I did not see the entire game to even know what is or is a trend. And why I told you that I saw some calls on the NCAA video that showed travels. I wonder do you really watch basketball because I see travels called all the time. But like other a lot of plays we can go back and see if we know for sure if they were correct. It is like block-charge calls. If they were missed, they were missed, it is not a tragedy like you are making it to be.

Peace

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by just another ref

All three in the video in this thread are very easy to identify. Do you disagree?

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I have actually answered your question.

Must have missed it. What was the answer?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Must have missed it. What was the answer?

You miss a lot of things. But what else is new?

Peace