Video Request: Dec. 19 Arizona-UTEP Traveling???

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by just another ref

For those who say: This is a travel, but it is not called at (whatever) level. Is this okay with you? Do you not call it either because you've been instructed not to? Or because nobody else does and you don't want to be the only one? Or what?

No answers forthcoming to this question. It's like having a "funny" relative. Everybody knows it's a problem. Nobody wants to talk about it.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

No answers forthcoming to this question. It's like having a "funny" relative. Everybody knows it's a problem. Nobody wants to talk about it.

Problem? That is a little overblown. We are not going to get all travels, no matter how many ways you want to try to act like high school officials are so perfect on this violation.

Peace

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Problem? That is a little overblown. We are not going to get all travels, no matter how many ways you want to try to act like high school officials are so perfect on this violation.

Peace

BNR made the statement here that these were travels, but they are seldom called. He is not the first to put it like this. If something is a violation, but is "seldom called", that indicates that it is being intentionally ignored, as opposed to being frequently missed. But I have never heard an explanation why. I'm still not totally comfortable with the way we (don't) call 3 seconds, but that, as far as I'm concerned, is not even close to this.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

BNR made the statement here that these were travels, but they are seldom called. He is not the first to put it like this. If something is a violation, but is "seldom called", that indicates that it is being intentionally ignored, as opposed to being frequently missed. But I have never heard an explanation why. I'm still not totally comfortable with the way we (don't) call 3 seconds, but that, as far as I'm concerned, is not even close to this.

He did not say they were intentionally ignored. Something that is rarely called can also be that way because it is hard to tell. We get the benefit of replay, open look and can look at it over and over to determine. An official on a game has one shot and has to not only see the pivot foot, determine when the violation actually took place. If you do not see it properly, it is not going to be called. I would rather miss a "technical" travel than call one that was not there at all.

And yes you have heard many explanations, you just ignore what you are being told. I know I have said this to you more than once.

Peace

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

He did not say they were intentionally ignored. Something that is rarely called can also be that way because it is hard to tell. We get the benefit of replay, open look and can look at it over and over to determine. An official on a game has one shot and has to not only see the pivot foot, determine when the violation actually took place. If you do not see it properly, it is not going to be called. I would rather miss a "technical" travel than call one that was not there at all.

Do you think it was hard to tell on any of these?


I, too, would rather miss one than call one that was wrong. But I would rather call one wrong than "miss" ten, and I think that ratio may be conservative.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Do you think it was hard to tell on any of these?


I, too, would rather miss one than call one that was wrong. But I would rather call one wrong than "miss" ten, and I think that ratio may be conservative.

Yes, it is in real time often.

Peace