The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Tue Nov 18, 2014, 12:21pm
APG APG is offline
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,889
Mark, this IS NOT a charge period.
__________________
Chaos isn't a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some, given a chance to climb, they refuse. They cling to the realm, or the gods, or love. Illusions.

Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is.

Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Tue Nov 18, 2014, 01:03pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: In the offseason.
Posts: 12,264
Quote:
Originally Posted by APG View Post
Mark, this IS NOT a charge period.
By the RA rule, you're correct, it is a block. But there is nothing about this play that "should" make it a block aside from an arbitrary line on the court.
__________________
Owner/Developer of RefTown.com
Commissioner, Portland Basketball Officials Association
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Tue Nov 18, 2014, 12:25pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Posts: 18,239
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. View Post
W-41 established a LGP against B-11 before W-41 became airborne.
Typo? Or, am I missing something.

And, I agree that this should NOT have been a PC foul because of the RA.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Tue Nov 18, 2014, 01:18pm
Administrator
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Toledo, Ohio, U.S.A.
Posts: 8,171
Quote:
Originally Posted by bob jenkins View Post
Typo? Or, am I missing something.

And, I agree that this should NOT have been a PC foul because of the RA.

Bob:

It was a typo and I corrected it.

This is a charge because A-41 was the primary defender therefore, the RA is not relevant to the play.

MTD, Sr.
__________________
Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Trumbull Co. (Warren, Ohio) Bkb. Off. Assn.
Wood Co. (Bowling Green, Ohio) Bkb. Off. Assn.
Ohio Assn. of Basketball Officials
International Assn. of Approved Bkb. Officials
Ohio High School Athletic Association
Toledo, Ohio
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Tue Nov 18, 2014, 12:28pm
Adam's Avatar
Keeper of the HAMMER
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: MST
Posts: 27,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. View Post
JetManFan:

You forgot the most important word in NCAAW R4-S35-A2: "initially". When B-11 gained PC of the Ball there was no defender between her and the Basket. W-41 established a LGP against B-11 before W-41 became airborne.

I agree that in theory the C should have this play all the way to the Basket. And in this type of play the L has a good look at W-41 coming from her PCA to establish a LGP. My problem is that the L may have been straight-lined just before B-11 became airborne, none-the-less, this was an easy charge for the C to get.

MTD, Sr.
Mark, you are aware of the purpose of that little arc they drew under the basket, right?
__________________
Sprinkles are for winners.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Tue Nov 18, 2014, 01:04pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 112
I struggle to see how anyone sees this as a charge after watching the replay (so I'm honestly looking for your opinion if it is different). I don't work women's so I may be out of the loop on the rules. On the men's side this is a block all day long as the defender never establishes LGP outside of the RA in my opinion. The contact can happen in the RA and be an offensive foul if the defender establishes LGP and retreats into the RA. These calls are tough and we should never criticize an official for missing heels being in the RA.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Stanford/UConn bballref3966 Basketball 0 Sun Apr 06, 2014 09:22pm
Video Reuest - Stanford/Kansas (Video) RefCT Basketball 11 Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:32pm
Stanford-California Video Request (Video) VTOfficial Basketball 21 Sun Feb 09, 2014 01:10pm
UConn Women Technical (Video Added) pfan1981 Basketball 35 Mon Apr 01, 2013 02:47pm
LSU/Stanford charge (Women's) Raymond Basketball 108 Fri Mar 31, 2006 06:34am


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:11pm.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1